I suppose there are men who want an abortion, too. Right? I mean if some accident happened with the contraception and you find out a few weeks later when your partner misses their period. Or you have second thoughts. Or you need to finish your education before spending the next 15 years raising a kid and supporting a family right now... I believe there are quite some reasons for the man-side of things, to have an opinion?! I don't think going nuclear on the options is a valid compromise for anyone?

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh sure, but those obviously aren't in the anti-camp.

Its a compromise for some, not all. Which is why I also say there is probably some religious involvement there as well, just not how they are pushing the propaganda.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hmm, I still don't understand. I mean if men want to be able to decide, too... being anti and wanting a law that strictly prohibits it for everyone, also strips them from the ability to make a decision. And additionally it's not a compromise. Forcing someone to something regardless, e.g. bearing a child is one of the extremes, not some middle-ground in between... You'd need a proper reason to force people to do something. And that can't be I want to decide over someone else's life. So either it's religuous or backed with some reasoning that's more than an opinion, or just for the sake of it.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

being anti and wanting a law that strictly prohibits it for everyone, also strips them from the ability to make a decision

Ah, here is your first issue - you expect rational thought. It isn't, they aren't.

Forcing someone to something regardless, e.g. bearing a child is one of the extremes, not some middle-ground in between..

The woman's life, opinions, etc, dont matter to them. Its a middle ground for these men, nothing else. I'd also say I'd assume for them its more about controlling what a woman can do, and what they believe is the purpose of a woman. Which is why I say there are likely religious undertones behind a lot of it (or just straight up misogyny).

You'd need a proper reason to force people to do something

"I'm the guy and this is what I want" - that is their reason.

Dont expect any sort of coherent or rational thought from anyone anti-abortion. Either they are incredibly ignorant, misogynistic, or a religious zealot.

Or, more likely, a combination of the three.