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[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 101 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Where did she get that number? Where's the source?

Majorities of both men (61%) and women (64%) express support for legal abortion.

38% of men are against abortion, and 33% of women are against.

The numbers are pretty similar.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks, the story she was telling was counter-intuitive and without source. Hence, doubt!

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Those are different numbers, percentage of men who are against abortion and percentage of people against abortion who are men are not the same.

[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 57 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Doesn't matter. If you take those numbers, let's say 4 out of 10 men are against abortion, so you put them in a pile.

Then you take 3 out of 10 women against abortion and you put them in the same pile.

So now you have a pile with 4 men and 3 women who are against abortion. Which would mean 4/7 people who are against abortion are men. Which is 57%. Not 79% at all.

Either way. What's the source. Should always source your statistics.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

82% of statistics are made up on the spot. Everyone knows that.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

69% of the time, it works every time

[–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

nice

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Your point is probably still generally correct because the percentage of men and women in the population is close to 50% each but in general the argument doesn't work unless you have equal numbers of both in the population.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It does matter, you’re assuming that they surveyed equal number of men and women, but I don’t see anywhere on that site that indicates that. Example in which op could be correct along with the statistics from (or close enough because I am on my phone and can’t get too complicated). Let’s create our dataset that could fit both results, let’s say they surveyed 100 people, 74 men and 26 women. From that 36 people are against abortion, 28 men and 8 women. So 36% of people surveyed are against abortion( This part matches the overall %s from the survey). Those 28men make up 78% of the people against abortion (this part matches OP). If we calculate them within each gender, 38% of the men are against abortion and 29% of women are against abortion (numbers got a little different here, but it’s close to the survey results). I am assuming that they didn’t have equal number of men and women, that’s why they stayed away from that calculation.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, my first thought was "no way" but different areas of the country are different, so I was open to digging in. Looks like my gut was right, it's just more "alternative facts."

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"the country" which country is that?

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

My home country, assuming the average wouldn't be far off