While I've honestly been trying to tune out the election shit, I was streaming the world series feed (through completely legal means I can assure you) from a Fox station in Florida. Much to my dismay, I was completely bombarded by these ads saying Trump supports amendement 3 which would legalize weed in the state. I scroll on social media for like 5 mins later on and I see this fucker on Joe Rogan.

Its a pretty clear attempt at targeting independent socially moderate/liberalish fiscally conservative independent bros that, honestly exist and could decide the election if its close. All while Kamala is really leaning into winning over "dick cheney democrats" that dont exist outside of focus groups in the beltway.

Im calling it now. Trumps winning again.

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[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Democrats seem to think that, regardless of the specific topic, a shift right gets more votes for democrats. Like there is a literal line and you pick up more the further right you go, and this in the most literal way you can imagine

There is the unfortunate fact that I do think the American people are just genuinely more right wing on certain topics than we care to admit, I.e. immigration and trans rights. Thing is Harris is just being really willy nilly about what her policies are right now so she's alienating voters on both sides. Trumps explicate about what he wants and so buys loyalty from his base.

There are popular progressive policies Harris could campaign on, like healthcare and abortion, but the Dems don't actually want to do any of that shit.

[–] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is the unfortunate fact that I do think the American people are just genuinely more right wing on certain topics than we care to admit, I.e. immigration and trans rights.

I don't think these reactionary ideas fell out of a coconut tree.

[–] AutoVomBizMarkee@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

I’m surprised the fascist genocidal settler state is so right wing!

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

Unless that coconut came with a little note inside of it along with a corporate dark money PAC contribution

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

I honestly don't know about the trans/immigration thing. Even in a time where people are being bombarded with propaganda, there's still broad support for trans people's right not to be discriminated https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/
I think if people were actually educated about medical transition, then they'd support that too.
Migration is more difficult. I can only find studies of dem/gop-voters and I'll give you that most of them are ghouls. According to another PEW study more than half think the "border crisis" has been handled badly https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/06/06/immigration-attitudes-and-the-2024-election/

There's lots of issues with these studies and I don't think the US is in any way non-ghoulish, but I don't think it's as dire as you describe

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

People are actually a lot more “left wing” on specific policies than it seems, you just wouldn’t know it because the media straight up lies to everyone about it.

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I really don't think this is true. People's lived experiences don't direct them to these positions. It's our lying media, and lying politicians who inject this shit into the populace then point to the effects of their bullshit as proof that these are real problems real Americans have issues with.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's our lying media, and lying politicians who inject this shit into the populace

I don't think this is a very materialist analysis. Media and politicians have always lied, people "fall", or should I say "buy into" those lies when they have a material incentive too.

https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Acknowledging that the bougeroise manufacture consent through their mouth pieces in media and politics is not anti-materialist. Folks are really struggling and those who control the means of communication direct people to a scapegoat.