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Hello. I'm from the mongolic empire ancient homeland restoration committee and would like to ask you for your opinion on everyone just fucking off of the sacred land of Temüjin and his ancestors.
Because every bullshit claim on land once settled on MUST be given back to some random tribe that once settled there.
By the way, the italians may claim israel for themselves, because the romans once held it.
So Palestinians don't have a valid claim, either? Only recency? If that's the case, then Israelis have the most valid claim because they're currently there.
I think arguments about who has a claim aren't the real question here. Recency vs historic rights to a region aren't enough and really never have been. The whole argument comes down to who has the power to hold the region and any arguments to the contrary are naive. Israel has the power, Palestinian's didn't want to play ball, so Israel took the ball home. A large part of Israel being able to hold the region has come down to geopolitics and capitalism. A lot of companies have headquarters and branches in Israel which makes a lot of money. Hamas, like the Taliban, are not expected to be good for big business. On top of that, Israel is friendly and cooperative with western allies and is one of the few such in the region. The west is not going to trade a friendly but harshly conservative Israel for an unfriendly and even more conservative Hamas.
You can talk all day about who deserves what, who has rights to what, and what the moral thing to do is. At the end of the day the world is going to follow the Golden Rule, "He who has the gold makes the rules."