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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 85 points 3 days ago (23 children)

There is no doubt that one of the candidates - Trump - is way more dangerous than the other

In no way judging Greta here, but I have doubts I-was-saying

Dick Cheney scares me far more than Donald Trump does. Cheney has caused far more death and destruction, and is much more effective in his evil deeds. When both candidates are pro-war and genocide, I think the side with Dick Cheney’s endorsement scares me more.

This is compounded by the fact that Republicans face more opposition than Democrats when they do evil things, and Trump more than the average Republican. Do you think the George Floyd protests would’ve been nearly as big if Biden had been president at the time? Absolutely not. Both at an institutional and public level, Trump, by nature of being icky, pisses people off and it makes his schemes harder to pull off. When Biden does the exact same things, he does them to thunderous applause.

Roe was overturned under Biden. More people have been deported by Biden. Biden ended covid protections, and more people have died from covid because of him. And most importantly, Biden is the architect of the Gazan genocide.

I’ve said before that voting for Kamala over Trump is voting to re-elect Hitler to prevent Goebbels from getting into office, but I’m starting to think it’s more like voting for Hitler to prevent Kaiser Wilhelm from getting back into office. Like yeah, he sucked dick and did a bunch of evil shit, but Hitler is currently doing the Holocaust.

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 59 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I don't really get the idea that people are somehow going to be 'more against' the genocide in Gaza because Trump is in office. Sure, people protested for George Floyd. You know what they didn't protest at all? The killing of Soleimani. In fact I can't think of a single foreign policy initiative that liberals protested other than the visit with Kim Jong-Un, the only good foreign policy thing that Trump did during his presidency.

The people that are currently protesting the Gaza genocide will continue to protest no matter who is in office. The people who are not are not going to have some sort of come to Jesus moment because the cheeto got elected.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Oh yeah to be clear I do not think it will change the math on Gaza that much. I meant all of the issues generally, but immigration is the main one I think Trump is actually the lesser evil on.

Biden deported more people than Trump. They’ve managed to actually implement Trump’s immigration policy, which when Trump attempted to do he was unable to, due to opposition from both Dem politicians and the general public. I think Dems have greater freedom to be strict on immigration than Republicans do, because when Dems do it everyone falls in line.

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah fair on immigration especially. I have doubts that Trump would be able to ram through some of the policies that Biden has gotten through, especially if Democrats take control of the house.

ETA: I generally have the opinion that Trump winning and the Democrats taking control of the house is the "best" thing that could happen, but I have zero faith that anything will change foreign-policy wise no matter who wins this election.

I fully agree, Trump president with Dem Congress is absolutely the least bad option

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