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[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"30% less" 😂 US GDP (it said % of pay, but let's play your game) per capita is 1.5x or more European countries, so try at least 50% less. It's a meme, it's not meant to be accurate, but if you're going to be a pedant at least be right.

Not to mention the lower cost is like 3rd on the list of reasons why public health care is amazing. Why you our here shilling for big business pal?

[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s a meme, it’s not meant to be accurate

That's what every boomer on FB propagating fake news about immigrants eating pets also say. Just because it's a picture means outright lying is okay. (and if it was lying in the other political direction, you'd likely be the first calling bullshit)

Why you our here shilling for big business pal?

Ah yes because everyone who isn't into lying is "shilling for big business"? Life must be simple in your head. Maybe some people think the truth matters more then coddling their feeling?

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So when the meme was wrong about 5% vs 20% it was "outright lying" but when you were shown to be wrong about your 30% you just continue on your high horse. Cool beans.

Not a political issue for me anymore thank goodness. Lived in the US for a while but very glad that public health is available for everyone where I live now (as is literally everyone else I know).

I mean private healthcare is strictly worse for everyone except business owners (and doctors without morals I guess). So that's my best guess at your motivation, but please correct me. Why?

[–] bitflag@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

but when you were shown to be wrong about your 30%

You showed nothing. Both the US and Europe mostly rely on making the employer pay, though in Europe it's typically mandatory and sent to a national system rather than the employer deciding by itself (or not) to pay for a private insurer for varying level of coverage. So there's just no way the US employers pay 300% more for a system which is "only" 50% more costly.

(also co-pays are fairly standard everywhere in Europe, to avoid abuses)

So that’s my best guess at your motivation, but please correct me. Why?

My motivation is fighting misinformation. Just because the misinformation comes from the side you support doesn't mean you should ignore it. In this case someone just made up shock numbers to get engagement and clicks, and that's not how you support a sound health care policy.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

OK cool, well if "someone is wrong on this Internet" is more important to you than making a case for a better health are system (that I note you have spent 0 energy on) I think I'm done. Thanks for the entertainment of "$5k per person is 30% cheaper than $10k" though, that was a good one.

[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if “someone is wrong on this Internet” is more important to you

If you think misinformation and propaganda is "someone being wrong on the internet" you are clearly a lost cause. Hope you enjoy the troll farms!

$5k per person is 30% cheaper than $10k”

Never wrote such a thing. Good strawman.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

"As usual with those sorts of memes, the numbers are completely wrong. European nations spend around 11-12% of GDP on healthcare vs about 17% for the US. So you'd likely pay significantly less (about 30% less)"

Dis you?