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A simple argument shows that capitalism is theft and workers have an inalienable right to workplace democracy - 35 minute video (mastodon.social)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by jlou@mastodon.social to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

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A simple argument shows that capitalism is theft and workers have an inalienable right to workplace democracy - 35 minute video

"David Ellerman: Neo-Abolitionism: Towards Abolishing the Institution of Renting Persons"

https://youtu.be/c2UCqzH5wAQ

The talk argues that employment contract is invalid due to inalienable rights. Inalienable means can’t be given up even with consent. Workers’ inalienable rights are rooted in their joint de facto responsibility for all production in the firm

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Simple != 35 minute video.

I've seen great arguments done in a 4 panel comic here on Lemmy.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm a little worried about the level of critical thinking around here if people really feel that "great" arguments can be expressed in a four panel comic.

The world is not simple, and memes can not make a valid worldview.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

The world isn't simple, but some arguments can be.

Simple is also different from easy.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The entire video isn't required to understand the argument. The first 15 minutes are sufficient

This argument probably can be explained in a 4 panel comic.

Probably, something like:
1 side: an employer and employee cooperating to commit a crime, which results in both being held responsible
Other side: an employer and employee cooperating to produce a widget resulting in the employer solely appropriating 100% of the property rights to the widget and liabilities for used-up inputs

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I've seen that argument against capitalism as a 4 panel comic in many forms over the past year on Lemmy but I can't find it now.

I think even the Everett True Lemmy has had done it.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 3 points 3 days ago

I have never found a meme that suitably emphasizes the responsibility aspect. Responsibility plays an essential role in the underlying argument due to the peculiarity that responsibility can't be transferred from person to person even with consent. You find memes about workers deserving the entire value of their labor, but none that emphasize responsibility and workers' property rights to the literal produced outputs and liabilities for the used-up inputs rather than just their value

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[–] confluence@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You could use those as single panes, and add two below them:

1 - Employee not getting jailed while boss is 2 - Employee not owning any product