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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I thought that they checked to make sure people were psychologically stable before giving them special-forces training...

[–] orvorn@slrpnk.net 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They do! To make sure their psychologically unstable enough to be trained as special forces.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like the army could just recruit the few who go into Fort Polk sane, then again they would have to acknowledge that base is cursed if they did that. Seriously I aint military but that gods forsaken base has popped up way too many times in my studies to not be cursed, and the worst part I think the general intelligence of that hellhole has only increased with time.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't be worse than Fort Cavazos...

Eugh, point made.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Sounds like you've never met a special forces guy

I was 12, on base with my dad and there was a SAS guy there for joint ops or something. He proceeded to give me a detailed account of how to turn I beams and c4 into projectiles and claimed they used said tactic in Iraq. Fucker had charts.

[–] levzzz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

SAS is a completely different country though...

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago
  1. I'm not American and 2) I know, it was some commonwealth joint ops or some shit idk. I'm also not British.
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it seems like Navy SEALs specifically don't for whatever weird fucking reason, and that's how you end up with conspiracy believing dolts who want to eat twinks

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is likely that they were stable before seal training. But decades of high stress training and dangerous missions while being fed a diet of jingist propaganda to justify the risk will have some side effects.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the explanation i see at the old place is as follows: navy seals were afraid of irrelevance when war moved to sandbox, so they changed their skillset (why tf does navy make a raid 1000km inland?) and loosened recruitment selection in the process. this allowed shitheads to join and over time they made navy seals deeply entrenched culture the festering ulcer it is today, which brings in more shitheads and criminals and what have you. rangers or delta force or whatever other SOF unit do not have this kind of problem including book deals. there was an incident where green beret was killed by seals because he found out about seals' money laundering. similar problems appear in canadian paras

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 week ago

They need to be easy to train, goal oriented, and loyal enough. I would imagine a lot of psychopaths go into the special forces because of the requirements.

As long as you only talk about making an organic twink farm, you're good.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. Special forces are vetted with lots of testing before joining. However, once they're done doing things that make many psychologically stable people very unstable, they're released back into the general population with little to no help or followup.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've known several special forces guys, not the actual Special Forces (Green Berets), but Navy Seals, Rangers, and a Delta Force guy. They were all very even-keel about everything. The movies show these guys as pumped up rowdy dudes, but the guys I've actually met were all very mellow, and mild-mannered individuals. Don't get me wrong, they could throw-down when the situation required it, but you'd never know that just from talking to them. If they're anything, then I'd say sociopathic is probably the closest they'd qualify as. Although they didn't really seem to have a lack of emotions or empathy, but they were very good at compartmentalizing their emotions and empathy when needed.

[–] ochi_chernye@startrek.website 3 points 1 week ago

Most SF guys I've known have been pretty chill. Some of the young guys are dumb assholes, but that's hardly exclusive to the special forces community. They're certainly given a lot more latitude than the rank and file, and that can go to their heads. Shitheels like this are not the norm, based on my limited perception and sample size (mainly us army SF).

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

who exactly would you trust to do that successfully?

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

The human equivalent of /bin/false

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

They used to but the War on Terror increased the demand for SOF so much that they couldn't afford to be as picky anymore.