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I'd make a Biden old joke here but my heart just isn't in it.
Hubris. Democrats lose because characters like RBG and President Biden simply could not fathom that stepping aside was ALWAYS what they should have done.
These miserable fucking dinosaurs have gambled away the good intentions, hopes, and stability of the entire nation because their internal mantra was that they are our political saviors, while everyone under 50 was full-throated screaming that they needed to step aside.
Fuck all you geriatric, foot on the gas, oblivious, incompetent fucks. If (big if) we ever regain our Democracy, the first thing on the agenda should be AGE CAPS for all public offices. Elderly fucking hubris has doomed us to more misery.
Lol, dude the guy that won the election is the oldest person to ever run for president in the history of the country, and a sitting Democratic president stepped aside due to public pressure for younger leadership, but yeah the concept of gerontocracy is what did them in. 🙄
Kyrsten Sinema is in her 40s, Bernie Sanders is in his 80s.
Age is not the factor here.
Literally the oldest president-elect in American history, but keep acting like age matters.
It's attitude. It's playing by the rules or bending them. Republicans figured out the cheat codes...they can bend the rules and win, or at the very least not lose. Because you can't, honestly, compete with that. It's impossible. Lies are far easier to create than they are to refute.
So either Dems have to go low, and lower the bar further, bend the rules more, and be just as guilty of breaking democracy as the GOP...or they can play clean and lose. There is no winning for the Democrats, and there is no losing for the Republicans. They found the cheat codes.
What's more, they got seized control of the anti-cheat (SCOTUS) 4 years ago. Stubbornness is a part of it, sure...RBG was too stubborn to leave at an opportune time...but let's not kid ourselves over GOP hypocrisy when it came time to fill her seat, and let's not consider whether or not Trump is stubborn.
Republicans can do no wrong, but Democrats have to be perfect.
If you were elected to do X, and the rules get in the way, it's antidemocratic to let them stop you.
Every time the democrats used the parliamentarian or the villain of the week or the republicans or norms or rules they themselves set in the senate as an excuse to do what their voters want (and their donors don't want), they are breaking democracy.
Democrats don't have to be perfect, they have to be effective. Republicans are effective, but only to do bad things. Democrats do manage to be effective sometimes, but only to do bad things, such as when Biden went around congress to keep arms shipments flowing to Israel.
You are embracing fascism as long as it's your guys.
That's the problem.
There's no winning. Democrats embrace fascism, everyone loses. Democrats play by the rules, Democrats lose.
It's not for lack of trying. Congress has been too split for too long, Republicans care more about open-carrying to committee meetings than to get anything actually done. They get to make the Democrats look bad by dragging their heels and voting no on anything they bring up. And that makes them heroes, somehow.
No, fascism isn't when you break rules to be effective in government.
Would you call FDR a fascist?
So go around them. Did you learn nothing from Obama giving the republicans half of the discretionary budget to appeal to their better nature, which the republicans voted against anyway? Or the compromised republican healthcare plan, Obamacare? West wing-brained libs claimed this was a stroke of genius, because everyone would see how civil and reasonable the dems were by reaching across the aisle.
And then the dems got blown the fuck out in 2010 because republicans saw their representatives fighting for them, and dem voters saw their representatives unilaterally passing republican policy despite having a super majority in the house and senate.
Age caps are good.
A rating voting system would be good too.
But I don't think there won't be younger people with the same kind of hubris.