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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

Sorry we let you down, Bernie, there are just too many shitheads now.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 7 points 11 hours ago
[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 63 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Welp, that's a wrap. We reelected Trump. I'm floored.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hello floored, I am to say it lightly "disappointed"

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

As a trans person, it's a bit more than light for me

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, really hope you can figure something out. We both know you are not safe.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

We both know you are not safe.

Don’t know if this is sympathy or if you’re out front of their door in a bush right now.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, Nick Cage is an icon.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE!"

truly remarkable cinematic masterpieces that he's created over the years.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago

Yeah that was great. Truly the actor most suited for these times.

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 78 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'd make a Biden old joke here but my heart just isn't in it.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 18 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Hubris. Democrats lose because characters like RBG and President Biden simply could not fathom that stepping aside was ALWAYS what they should have done.

These miserable fucking dinosaurs have gambled away the good intentions, hopes, and stability of the entire nation because their internal mantra was that they are our political saviors, while everyone under 50 was full-throated screaming that they needed to step aside.

Fuck all you geriatric, foot on the gas, oblivious, incompetent fucks. If (big if) we ever regain our Democracy, the first thing on the agenda should be AGE CAPS for all public offices. Elderly fucking hubris has doomed us to more misery.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

Democrats lose because characters like RBG and President Biden simply could not fathom that stepping aside was ALWAYS what they should have done.

Lol, dude the guy that won the election is the oldest person to ever run for president in the history of the country, and a sitting Democratic president stepped aside due to public pressure for younger leadership, but yeah the concept of gerontocracy is what did them in. 🙄

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Kyrsten Sinema is in her 40s, Bernie Sanders is in his 80s.

Age is not the factor here.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Literally the oldest president-elect in American history, but keep acting like age matters.

It's attitude. It's playing by the rules or bending them. Republicans figured out the cheat codes...they can bend the rules and win, or at the very least not lose. Because you can't, honestly, compete with that. It's impossible. Lies are far easier to create than they are to refute.

So either Dems have to go low, and lower the bar further, bend the rules more, and be just as guilty of breaking democracy as the GOP...or they can play clean and lose. There is no winning for the Democrats, and there is no losing for the Republicans. They found the cheat codes.

What's more, they got seized control of the anti-cheat (SCOTUS) 4 years ago. Stubbornness is a part of it, sure...RBG was too stubborn to leave at an opportune time...but let's not kid ourselves over GOP hypocrisy when it came time to fill her seat, and let's not consider whether or not Trump is stubborn.

Republicans can do no wrong, but Democrats have to be perfect.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

So either Dems have to go low, and lower the bar further, bend the rules more, and be just as guilty of breaking democracy

If you were elected to do X, and the rules get in the way, it's antidemocratic to let them stop you.

Every time the democrats used the parliamentarian or the villain of the week or the republicans or norms or rules they themselves set in the senate as an excuse to do what their voters want (and their donors don't want), they are breaking democracy.

Democrats don't have to be perfect, they have to be effective. Republicans are effective, but only to do bad things. Democrats do manage to be effective sometimes, but only to do bad things, such as when Biden went around congress to keep arms shipments flowing to Israel.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

You are embracing fascism as long as it's your guys.

That's the problem.

There's no winning. Democrats embrace fascism, everyone loses. Democrats play by the rules, Democrats lose.

It's not for lack of trying. Congress has been too split for too long, Republicans care more about open-carrying to committee meetings than to get anything actually done. They get to make the Democrats look bad by dragging their heels and voting no on anything they bring up. And that makes them heroes, somehow.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

No, fascism isn't when you break rules to be effective in government.

Would you call FDR a fascist?

Republicans care more about open-carrying to committee meetings than to get anything actually done

So go around them. Did you learn nothing from Obama giving the republicans half of the discretionary budget to appeal to their better nature, which the republicans voted against anyway? Or the compromised republican healthcare plan, Obamacare? West wing-brained libs claimed this was a stroke of genius, because everyone would see how civil and reasonable the dems were by reaching across the aisle.

And then the dems got blown the fuck out in 2010 because republicans saw their representatives fighting for them, and dem voters saw their representatives unilaterally passing republican policy despite having a super majority in the house and senate.

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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 38 points 17 hours ago

I'm sorry we failed you Bernie.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 95 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 40 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah seems like that was it for the US. Have fun living in Gilead.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Ngl probably going to try to leave for good

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

I’m lucky enough to have dual EU nation citizenship from my childhood. Going to be digging through my childhood paperwork in case I need it.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 14 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

Get the process started now. Don't wait.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 39 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Democratic party is fucking useless. We will never be free unless we rid ourselves of legalized corruption.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 18 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Poor take. Truthfully, the people want hate. That's what trump ran on and promised.

This isn't about policy or likeability or whatever. This is what people want and they proved it. Stop blaming the Democrat party and blame what this country and its people are instead.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

He didn't say he preferred trump, he said the Democrats are useless.

Which they are; they couldn't defeat an orange windbag with transparent aspirations of autocracy.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

Are you kidding? The DNC circumvented the entire primary process to give us ANOTHER "anointed one" and, again, possibly the worst candidate possible to create the coalition that has always been Democrats' bread-and-butter. They even had Hillary go down to FL to lecture voters, while Bill went to Michigan to preach to Muslim communities about why the war in Israel is right. It's a fucking lampoon of strategy.

Every single DNC "elite" should retire from politics, today. They're losers, and losers lose. Because they never learn from their mistakes, which is what is required to win.

[–] scemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, since when is circumventing primary process worse than literally trying to steal an election? You want the perfect Democrat to run, while the other side is running a joke.

Let's not kid ourselves, the reason Democrats lost was because of economy and voter apathy. Otherwise, we wouldn't see Democrats lose control of all branches of the government. No matter what strategies they adopted, it wouldn't have worked.

She was already a VP and our country still has inflation. People are idiots and blame it on Democrats.

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I mean, it's likely both. Apathy towards hate is still pretty bad imo, and hate is the Republican party platform. Also just saying, the economy needs some inflation and I think we're around 3% right now, which economists agree is ideal? Not an expert there tho

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[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 9 points 16 hours ago

Hate and simple answers. Trump will "fix inflation" and "bring jobs back", what could be better? Don't ask how or what it will cost.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Oligarchs have all the power now

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Except they've always had all the power. The money gets what the money wants.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

True.

But now more of the hurdles will be removed. Gotta make that wealth extraction more efficient 📈🥴
Can't let those poor and middle class people hold onto any of their money.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

I wonder how quickly will the US progress from Elon Musk prancing around on stage to Trump Jack Ma-ing him, or if Bloomberg will commit suicide by six shots to the back of the head.

The golden age of the US oligarchy has been this past period. Under fascism, the causal relationship between having power and money reverses.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

WDYM, Hitler was pretty friendly with German oligarchy. No suiciding them or something, their relationships were pretty chill, having fun together, going to countryside, going to each other with families, having coffee.

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