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The trans people are crying (lemmy.nz)

submitted 2 weeks ago by dragonfucker@lemmy.nz to c/usa@midwest.social

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Drag has spent all day in voice chat with drag's trans friends in America and now they're crying. They're going to die if they don't pack up their entire lives and never see their family again, and they don't even know how to financially accomplish that. No matter what happens, their lives as they know them are over, and they're going to suffer. They thought they had more time. They thought Harris was going to win. Now they know that if they can't get out, they're going to be murdered. They're scared and sad and they're crying.

Fuck every single person who contributed to this. Drag's friends didn't deserve this. Whatever fascist agenda made anyone think this was an okay outcome, fuck them. This is not okay!

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[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those who loved you yesterday still love you today. The legal protections may be changing for the worse, but the actual people caring about LGBT+ friends and loved ones are still all here. We did before, regardless of what the law said, and we will now. I think it's important to hold onto that going forward. Those of us with differences from what is now the mainstream need to keep sticking together no matter which way the wind blows. Drag and drag's friends are included in my support for sure.

[+] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

No, the allies aren't here anymore. The allies came in 2020 to vote for Biden, and 4 years later they gave up, because Harris didn't pander to them enough. They thought drag's friends' lives were worth less than whatever stupid motivation for hating Harris. They were fakes, and they outed themselves as fakes yesterday.

Trans people in America can't trust Americans to help them. America is dead. Everyone who isn't a fascist should be working on a plan to leave now.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel all the posts here today want to pin what happened on one thing, because we want to understand it, but I believe that is a mistake. I don't really want to try to wade into that discussion now though. Everyone is understandably mad and afraid.

Politicians have failed us once more, in really big ways which will have ripples for years to come. But my stances haven't changed since yesterday, and neither have most people's, be those good or bad. The laws don't keep us safe. If someone wanted to hurt somebody else, the law only steps in after something has already happened. People break laws to hurt people, but people also break laws to help people.

I won't act like I understand fully the situation many are left in today. But I will still try and understand what I can and to do what I can to help people that are in a bad place. I don't think I could leave if I wanted to. I'm not rich. I don't have any special skills. I don't know anyone anywhere else in the world. What support I do have is here, and they are in the same situation as I am.

I believe it's right to be extra guarded right now, but I don't want to see anyone totally cutting themself off. The world is a richer place with drag, drag's friends, and all the people like them. They're all still in the vision of millions of people's vision of this country. If communities of people want to pull away for safety, I get it, but many of us all still who we said we were before. I truly wish drag and drag's friends and everyone else the best. There is always more strength in community than being on one's own.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Everyone is understandably mad and afraid.

Mad? No. Furious. I'm now going to be counting days until people that I love die. No suicides in my circle yet that I know of but, there probably will be.

Politicians have failed us once more

No.

(Non-)Voters failed us yet again. The blood is solidly on their selfish, myopic hands.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't disagree with anything you've said.

I've tried to come up with something more to say, but I don't want to sound patronizing. I basically just wanted to acknowledge your anger since you took the time to respond to me. I didn't want to seem like I ignored you.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you. I hope you and those that you know are safe and well.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Drag is correct. Every. Single. Anti-electoralist/accelerationist who didn't vote or voted for a Stein has broadcast that they don't give a fuck about Palestinians, Ukrainians, women, LGBTQ+, or humanity at large. Any hand-waving or "bbbut Harris" is just an excuse to assuage their guilt and avoid taking responsibility for their choices. Dems didn't help but they didn't physically force anyone to choose to allow facists to capture the government.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

70 million people voted for Kamala. You still have 70 million allies in this country.