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[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 34 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Lmao yes famous things leftists ask for like:

  1. Stating your difference from Biden would be to have a republican in your cabinet.
  2. Campaigning with Liz Cheney.
  3. Enacting the rights border policies.
  4. Walking back a commitment to ban fracking.
  5. Walking back support for Medicare 4 All
  6. Walking back support for the green new deal.
  7. Supplying and funding the genocide leftists and Arab voters explicitly wanted stopped.

They can’t even blame third party voters this time around because from the current tallies it wouldn’t have made a difference.

They didn’t activate what should be their base enough and instead tried to court neocons and these mythical moderate republicans that would abandon trump in swaths for a righter wing democrat (hint: they will always prefer the actual republican).

If the democratic leadership takes this result as anything but an indictment of their attempt to abandon popular left policies to become the Republicans of 20 years ago they are hopeless. I’m not holding my breath though.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nah we're done dude. What voters where told this election was "Its not your party, its our party. We'll do with it what we will."

I can't imagine voting for a Democrat again, should we even get to vote again. Its too risky. They lie about who they are. Its all lip-service. They have no plan. There is no commitment to a broader project.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Why are you pretending like the democratic party didn't push through the Civil Rights Act, DACA, Marriage Equality, the ADA, Affordable Care, Decriminalization of Marijuana, almost every minimum wage increase, student loan forgiveness, reproductive rights, etc.? If you haven't benefited from policies of the Democratic party, then you must be living a very charmed life indeed.

Leftists blaming the right for people on the left not voting is some backwards hoop-jumping logic.

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

It feels like a recurring pattern of getting momentum then giving up before the fight and declaring that the only way forward is to compromise with the GOP. This pervasive self-defeating attitude that people don't want good things constantly undermines any attempt to sell a democratic vision. If you pre-emptively declare that centrism is the only viable path and attack anything that you think threatens your appeal to the center you will only ever be hurting your own position. To govern effectively you need to sell people on your vision, you have to have an idea of what you want the future to look like and then you have to convince people that is the right way. Going in with the only goal being to win, and adopting whatever mishmash of policies sounds popular to get there will never speak to people, and actively attacking the people with ideas and vision for being too "unelectable" is just self sabotage.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They can’t even blame third party voters this time around because from the current tallies it wouldn’t have made a difference.

Wat. Michigan and Wisconsin alone were so narrow that the third-party candidates received multiples of the difference.

That's twenty-five electoral votes right there. That would have flipped the election.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Robert F Kennedy and Chase Oliver voters are peeling off votes from Trump not Harris.

If you look at the count of the RFK/ Oliver/ Libertarian voters they more or less cancel out the Green and socialist candidate/party voters