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[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what's getting me. If he won via electoral college or couping, I'd be angry and ready to do the work to pull the country out of this mess and end Trumpism once and for all. But instead, he won the popular vote. People in the United States saw a wannabe-autocrat who was specifically called a fascist by his own officers who admitted to being a dictator "on day one" among so many other things. After seeing that, a majority of people either affirmatively supported the fascist candidate by voting for him, or they are tolerant enough of it to sit at home and not vote or vote for a third party knowing the outcome. And that really just makes me lose faith in my country and the people, and so I'm just sad knowing that this country actively chose this outcome.

What's worse is that I really don't feel a strong desire to try to change anything since it'll just fall on deaf ears at best. More to the point, I don't even want to hear "their side" or "their reasons" for why they voted the way they did because no matter the rationale they give, it will come down to them being comfortable with oppression of minorities and autocracy. I always want to believe the best of people, but after today, I really can't anymore.

[–] nxn@biglemmowski.win -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In my view you're arriving at conclusions of how to act and think a result of being biased by the popular vote. The popular vote has no influence over the existing laws that are being broken nor the existing rights that are being violated. Furthermore, ask yourself, when has the other party ever given a single fuck about the popular vote? So, why do you?

Edit: Made some edits to clarify. Essentially, I'm making the argument that laws shouldn't be broken and rights shouldn't be ignored just because a majority is OK with doing so.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

The popular vote has been the moral victory of the Democrat party since 2000.