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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My guess is overall turnout was lower because things didn't feel as 'crisis' like as 2020.

What an insane take...

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

For the politically disengaged? It is an accurate take.

In 2020, you had massive unemployment. People personally were stuck at home with nowhere they could go. Many of them saw a loved one suffer death at the hands of a pandemic, or personally get very sick. That is a direct and visceral experience of "things are bad". They didn't need to follow any news, study any charts, read any policy, they knew that their direct subjective experience was bad.

In 2024, things for people are largely normal, but a lot of bills are high. Grading on a curve, this is much further from a personal crisis for most folks. In fact, the grocery bills eased a bit so some people might be seeing a natural 'light at the end of the tunnel'.

The biggest discused crisis factors in forums like this are only being considered by the politically engaged, and that's just not most people. Whether it should be or not...

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Its definitely a media outreach problem.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yez, but not in the way you're thinking. People have been radicalized by misogynists on youtube and tiktok that Russia has paid for. It's been proven for some of them, and if you think they're the only ones, you're living in a fantasy land.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Except gen z men voted at like a 2% more for trump in a low turnout election its like well within every margin of error that it could be decreasing support since 2020.

The significant portion of the almost 20 million Biden voters that just checked out of politics and decided since everything seemed ok, no need to vote. Thats the media outreach problem. It guarantees that republicans will regain power everytime the economy gets patched up with duct tape.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I think the media has blared the things people should be caring like crazy. Problems remain:

  • People only internalize their personal experience, and they only care so much about what they see on the screen.
  • To the extent they may care, they also see a counter campaign of folks claiming otherwise, and they don't really have a good way to casually know which viewpoint to take seriously.
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think that points to the democrats need for sneaker based messaging networks. Instead of buying huge expensive ads that nonvoters won't watch and giving that money out to tv networks why not use the high volunteer base to buy t shirts and restaurant meal coupons then hand them out to people. stuff like that. I think there needs to be more lateral thinking here. Less emails, more tshirts.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is largely how non voters have responded when asked as far as I've seen: "feels like things aren't broken, I can sit this out"

Its not a take its just the reality we live in.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every person that says that is now a Nazi sympathizer.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I agree with you in spirit but not in rhetoric. I'd call them dipshits.