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I flew for the first time on a plane last week and I've seen planes take off at the airport. It looks crazy. But being on one is totally different like holy shit. The thing just FLIES. It just.... Soars... Through the sky! Like whoa man. Wtf... It's crazy. With how much these things weigh, it's insane to me the thing can just go up and bam, there we are, we're flying now. Like wow... Dude crazy.

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[โ€“] Rivalarrival 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know why everybody focuses so much on the top of the wing. Relative to ambient air, the pressure above the wing is slightly reduced, but the pressure below the wing is massively increased. That massive increase is far more important than the slight reduction above.

We know this, because simple, flat airfoils are capable of flight. Think: paper airplanes, simple balsa models, etc.

The shape of the airfoil is not actually very important for lift. You can make a brick produce plenty enough lift to maintain its altitude, if you can provide sufficient thrust and control it's attitude.

The specific shape of the airfoil is primarily important for minimizing drag across a variety of speeds and angles of attack at various loadings. This is where the top surface of the wing becomes important. By maintaining the flow over the wing, drag is reduced, and controllability is maintained.

[โ€“] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

yeah, I'm with you, the Newtonian makes more practical end complete sense to me sense to me as an explanation for a lift.

maybe the confusion comes from calling the motion of pushing air down "lift"

push-off.

hm. what the heck is an appropriate antonym for lift...

spring-hold.

oh, buoyancy?

maybe we should switch our talk from lift to buoyancy.

rather than generating lift, velocity through the air generates aerodynamic buoyancy due to the increase in downward pressure, or rather the compressed air beneath the airfoil.