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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The casino scene is the crux of the movie. The main character - Rose - is a loyal soldier who stops a deserter 'or her sister died for nothing.' Planet Capitalism is where she's disillusioned by war profiteers and makes the unsubtle decision to free their animals. By the end she prevents said deserter from repeating her sister's sacrifice.

The Last Jedi is an anarchist critique of of Star Wars where a rebel soldier rejects the old lie.

I have no fucking idea how Disney decided to produce it as an actual Star Wars film.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This has won me over. I was kinda meh about it outside of the nice visuals, but this clicked it together for me.

Thank you.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Years later, I'm still flabbergasted this isn't the default take. The movie has deep problems, but the themes are right there in your face.

The only way it doesn't put "anyone can be a hero" onscreen in eight-foot-tall letters is the ending. Which sure feels like Disney checked in, went "Oh SHIT," and forced a sudden fourth act that over-corrects back toward the status quo.

Imagine if Rey hadn't arrived on Krait. Kylo offers her the universe, she inhales to answer, hard cut. We don't see either of them until the next movie. Instead, when the last gasp of the Rebellion was pushed deep into the caves, some rando side character saves them. A nobody with significant screen time watches the whimsical native fauna casually nudge giant boulders, and decides to just fuckin' try. In an ideal reading, this character would not have dialog. She would not even have a name. Who she is aggressively does not matter. Only that she understood what Luke said and Rey ignored: the Force is in all living things.

Nobody can own that.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I meant I liked Last Jedi, it was the only good one.

The scene I wasn't sure of, but the movie over all was good. I like the idea that Ray is a no one, and that helps the idea that anyone can be anything.

And then "whoops, youre only powerful because force eugenics!"