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"Israel’s far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has ordered preparations for the annexation of the occupied West Bank ahead of US President-elect Donald Trump taking office in January 2025."

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Jesus h. Chist, you ARE the problem in the room. You and people like you.

Had kamela won she could have doubled down in Israel. If not, mass protests could have pushed her. Something, anything could have been done. Hell, even if nothing was done, at least the worst impulses would have been constrained. Now, because of smug assholes like you, the US will likely become a dictatorship, the US likely will pull out of NATO and the entire fucking world will become a much, much dangerous place to live in. Forget about internal policies that will make racism and discrimination against anyone slightly different okay again, this shit affects the whole goddamn world. People like you ate the reason why a Jesus-will-come-back-if-we-end-the-world cult is now in possession of nukes.

Oh, and Palestine is absolutely fucked now.expect it to simply and completely disappear, you are the reason why so many men, women and children will be slaughtered

Thank you!

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Had kamela won she could have doubled down in Israel.

This is ridiculous nonsense. Why would she. The Harris campaign ran on the strategy that she could ignore the voices of Palestinians and their allies during the most vulnerable time for her. Why would she do anything if she was delivered into power. The whole point of her doing that was to prove that she didn’t need support from the antigenocide crowd. Why do you believe she would do anything if we gave her power. All the leverage is gone at that point. You are being delusional.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Harris COULD have cracked down on Israel.

Trump will guaranteed murder the Palestinians because he has already said so

If you don't see that difference them get glasses

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Harris COULD have cracked down on Israel.

Utter nonsense. If she didn’t crack down during the election when voters had maximum leverage on her. She is simply not going to crack down if she was given office when the amount of leverage voters have is dramatically lower. Literally read my comment again, it couldn’t be clearer.

When it comes to killing Palestinians there is broad bipartisan support in America. If this is the issue that you vote on, amongst the two major parties they are essentially the same. One will look kind of concerned while signing away bombs and missiles to do the killing, the other will laugh with glee while doing the same. You have no option to not send the bombs and missiles and that’s the only thing that really matters.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I voted for Kamala, ya dingus. I just have enough self-reflection to note that her messaging was shit and that there was little difference between the two of them when it came to Palestine. I voted for her because of domestic policy, not foreign policy.

There are lessons to be learned here. And sticking our heads in the sand will not help us learn those lessons. And one of those lessons should absolutely be that, "vote for me. I support genocide, but my opponent supports it EVEN MORE!" is a shit campaign message. Whoever thought of that strategy should be shot.

[–] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Her message was shit. I still don't think that Israel would feel comfortable annexing the west bank like this under her presidency. The dems are cooling on Israel, especially since it was slowly leading them into a war with Iran and tensions with Saudi Arabia. So I'm not saying the dems are better on this issue for altruism. No. I think Gaza was fucked either way and the dems are complicit in genocide there. But I do think Trump will directly result in expansion and full out war into the west bank and then the whole region in a way Harris wouldn't have and they are very different in that way.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No you are the problem. Democrats and Republicans are becoming cult, you can't assume your responsibilities and blame each other. Both parties are complicit to the genocide and military support data shows that there support for Israel is almost equal. The fact that you defend the imperialist power called NATO who destroyed Afghanistan is crazy and shows that you can't give a damn about justice

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] small44@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Don't use words you don't understand