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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What swathe of policies were bad?

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why back up fantastic claims when you can just circlejerk on Lemmy?

[–] KaTaRaNaGa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Neoliberalism is often associated with a set of economic liberalization policies, including privatizationderegulationconsumer choiceglobalizationfree trademonetarismausterity, and reductions in government spending. These policies are designed to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.

These things? Your position is the American people rejected her over these things? In favor of Trump?

Look, I don't know what happened this election, but I don't see anything here I think the American people would object to. Maybe globalization.

[–] KaTaRaNaGa@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you… read the Criticism section like I mentioned?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did. I understand that there is intellectual criticism of neo-liberalism. I don't even necessarily disagree with that criticism. I just don't see any evidence that the vast majority of people actually care.

I just don't think that's why. That said, I'll acknowledge that maybe you're right and I'm wrong.

[–] KaTaRaNaGa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I appreciate your sincerity. Please accept mine:

What do you think the vast majority of people care about?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That they don't trust a black chick.

I honestly think it's more likely that more people are at least moderately racist, and fewer people are knowledgeable about neoliberalism to the point of having an opinion, let alone changing their vote for it.

Always bet on stupid.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I had a real answer to that, I'd be a lot less confused by the election. I mean it most likely comes down to, as it always has, "it's the economy, stupid."

If I had to take a guess, all of these massive disagreements online about Gaza and immigration and regulation, to say nothing of Trumps general... terribleness all around... even abortion—it seems to me that all of these issues amount to a few 1/10ths of a percent.

I guess if the economy is good, we keep the administration. If it's bad, we toss it. And that seems, from my perspective, to be the only thing that matters at all to the electorate. It seems crazy to me that no one is looking into the future to see what is coming.

Anyone who truly cared about the future economy would run screaming from tariffs, so I guess it's just really about punishing a bad economy, no matter what.

I wish there was another explanation that presented itself. Something to help me understand that didn't mean the country is a bunch of idiots. But I've got nothing.

[–] KaTaRaNaGa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yea that tracks for me too. Well said.