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[–] slumberlust@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

This is not risk free. When you give people access to space and still have terrorism and wars, things can end badly quickly.

There's also a valid argument around where to best focus those resources now. We are nowhere near ready for space colonization on any scale, let alone sustainable ones.

A City on Mars by the Wienersmiths dives into some of these challenges if you are interested.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

I think it would be a good idea to start colonizing space before "we have our shit figured out on earth", since you know, that will never actually happen. We will have wars on earth for all eternity, we should colonize and explore space anyway.

Honestly, I strongly believe that striving to make space habitats work is one of the things that will finally teach us what we need to know to live sustainably on earth. The thing is, an affordable space colony is one that recycles almost everything, one that works mostly as a closed loop, a sustainable bubble. So in other words, if you know how to survive in a space colony, you know how to live without destroying the earth. And extreme sustainability is really the natural goal with any large space colony. Unfortunately nobody is really trying to do that here on earth, the funding, the engineering, it just isn't happening. But if we start seriously attempting habitats in space, then people will be attempting that somewhere... And once we figure out how to do it, it can be reapplied to life on earth.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

We will most likely always have terrorism and wars. That's not an argument against letting wealthy individuals fund a private space race.

[–] slumberlust@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes it is! Right now no one can hurtle an asteroid at earth to end it instantly. When space mining takes off that's a very real threat.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 1 points 22 minutes ago

I'm not sure space mining is what causes asteroids. Dinosaurs didn't have a space program to my knowledge.

[–] ProtonFiber@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

He meant the budget spent on space is enormous and there are more urgent priorities on Earth solve so he does get it.

We already have Mars populated by human-made robots, and one going to Europa moon, terraforming means you're thinking of making it habitable for humans, a huge difference from sending robots to do researches to understand better the moons/asteroids/planets.

The point you try saying his argument which seems against billionaires to be invalid instead of arguing against any other point he made just points out your focus is being an apologist for the wealthy to keep doing what they do best, starve and explore everyone else.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's private wealth, not government funding. They're free to use their wealth how ever they see fit as long as it's legal.

Ad-hominem is not argument to the contrary either.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Great argument for and example of how the US government isn't taxing wealth nearly enough, if we have homeless people and billionaires funding sci fi fantasies for their own amusement in the same country.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

Asteroid impact can solve homelesness too.

I still think populating other planets is a worthy cause. We should do that while taxing the billionaires more.