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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Proof you have to present your ideas as fun, uplifting, playful, and not moralist shaming sessions.

Trump voters didn't look at the past and decide to do it again; they just still felt the same way as they always have. They want to feel good, not disenfranchised.

That's the problem the left have to resolve. How to make voters feel good, and enfranchised by candidates.

That's what Trump gives supporters, it's emotional, not rational.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is fun, uplifting and playful about saying immigrants are eating pets? What is fun, uplifting and playful about accusing trans people of being sexual predators? Did we watch the same gop campaign? They're fueled off hate stop making it seem like anything else.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For them, hate is fun (or the closest approximation thereof). It all makes sense after that.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I feel like a large part of this is that it’s consistent and shared hate. Like going to a shitty movie with friends or being stuck at the DMV/doctors waiting room, or dealing with taxes or whatever… people can complain because they know other people in the group will share their complaints and misery loves company.

It doesn’t matter if what you’re complaining about can be easily fixed, and they don’t want to hear a better way, they just want to bitch and have people reciprocate the same misery.

[–] Fuzzy_Dunlop@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly.

Yes, there are plenty of problems with Trump, MAGA, and the Republican party, but it's very obvious that Trump's supporters are genuine and enthusiastic with their support. The only recent thing comparable on the (D) side was with Bernie, but the DNC made sure that didn't happen. I have not met anyone with genuine enthusiasm for Clinton, Biden, or Harris (at least not without it being some form of "well, (s)he's better than Trump"). The people leading the DNC would rather keep whatever power they can in the party, even if it means losing elections, than step back and listen to what voters truly want.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

I swear that the DNC convinced her to use DNC-as-usual tactics somehow. As a campaigner I swear I saw the things that gave her the initial burst of confidence in her erode away.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what you're saying, is instead of Harris, they should have ran OAC.........in a bikini.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

bernie sanders... in a bikini

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How has nobody besides me upvoted this???

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

people are scared of the emotion roused by sexy sanders