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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Thst story is completely fake - it has no source.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Except for the German federal prosecutors, Dutch officials, former Ukranian commander in chief, and the sabotage team themselves, I suppose you're right.

Days after the attack, in October 2022, Germany’s foreign secret service received a second tipoff about the Ukrainian plot from the CIA, which again passed on a report by the Dutch military intelligence agency MIVD. It offered a detailed account of the attack, including the type of boat used and the possible route taken by the crew, according to German and Dutch officials.

Inasumuch as you can have a source for a covert operation after the fact.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Can you link the direct source - like, statement of german police or official press conference?

I've spent some time looking into this and found no direct sources.

BTW, these articles are copypaste - There were bunch of much older (2023?) ones which I also failed to find any credible source for.

EDIT: Correction, the first articles about this came out 3 months ago

The part about Zelenski ordering sabotage while drunk has both no source and is utterly ridiculous.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The part about Zelenski ordering sabotage while drunk has both no source and is utterly ridiculous.

I agree. I also didn't see it in the article -?

If you want to find German federal prosecutor records, or Dutch itelligence reports - I'm not sure where to go for those.

It pains me to say this but the WSJ, while being a Murdoch rag and certainly guilty of ridiculous bias in the way it reports things, isn't really known for making up things whole cloth like the Daily Mail or something.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Do you think German police would issue an arrest warrant against a Ukrainian, while their country is supporting Ukraine in the war, if they didn't have any solid proof? https://apnews.com/article/germany-nord-stream-pipelines-explosions-investigation-d5579ea69995e8f309ac58c588c39004