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[–] cybermass@lemmy.ca 68 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder what the survival rate is for these fishes

[–] jared@mander.xyz 94 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

According to the links in this post It's 95%-99% survival.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 31 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

Then why can't I yeet a bunch of goldfish

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 54 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

One of the bigger reasons has to do with the square cube law - as the size of something increases, surface area increases by a factor of 2 but mass increases by a factor of 3, so little fishes have a surface area-to-mass ratio that is quite a bit higher than a larger fish, and they're more susceptible to abrupt changes in temperature.

Kinda like how an ice cube will melt a lot faster than a big slab of ice, the core temperature of some small fish like a goldfish is gonna change more rapidly than the core temperature of a big fish like a trout so they tend to be a lot more finnicky in regard to significant and instantaneous changes to temperature and stuff. A larger fish might shrug off a significant change because it affects them more slowly, but that might be a totally wild an overwhelming experience for a little fish to go through

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 18 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The math actually works, and is quite simple. Just assume the fish is a sphere

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago

IMMA YEET THEM SO FAR

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

something i love about Lemmy is that on the drop of a hat someone is willing to calculate the "surface area to fish ratio"

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 13 points 1 hour ago

Problem is, you almost never know if that's actually true or complete bullshit.

It seems plausible, but killing virgins for rain also seemed plausible back then in the 70s.

[–] BanjoShepard@lemmy.world 43 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And in a similar but completely different way, the fish are being added to massive bodies of water. Home aquariums are minute in comparison, so they can't balance out chemical swings as easily and are much more prone to higher levels of nitrites and other toxic chemicals. The larger the body of water, the more stable the water quality.

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 14 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

So what I hear you saying is I need a bigger aquarium...

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 hours ago

You always need a bigger aquarium

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You could probably air drop one goldfish into a 100 gallon tank and it'd be fine (assuming it survived the fall).

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago
[–] Tacoma@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago

And a bigger fish

[–] jared@mander.xyz 30 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] explodIng_lIme@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago
[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Try to fly higher above the tank and see if it helps

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

You can yeet goldfish. Carp are stupid tough. It's the tropical fish we often keep that are kinda wimpy. Also, they're not coming from a super healthy environment (the store) to our tanks.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

Have a pilots license?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

One reason is because the hatcheries are in the same general area as the lakes, so conditions are pretty similar. The temperature will be about the same at the same depths as the hatchery, and the water comes from the same source.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe 95% survive, but how many are injured in a way that might impact their quality of life?

Since these are being dropped specifically for the purpose of being caught and killed asap, quality of life might not matter.

For your sad little goldfish, please be gentle!

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

Also, gotta think about whether 5% mortality rate is acceptable.

For an airdrop number of pond fish? Sure!

For your hobbyist number of expensive fish? Absolutely not