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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We play the hand we're dealt. Accelerated genocide + fascism is a worse outcome than performative resistance to genocide.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

You were not dealt this hand, you chose it by not telling them 'no'. it is the most powerful word you have in your arsenal learn to use it. there is a reason utilitarianism is panned basically universally in ethics classes. Had you been willing to exercise it against the DNC you might not be in the very situation you find yourself in now.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How did that work out for all the people who said no? Now Trump will help Bibi annex the West Bank. I've taken Ethics, utilitarianism was absolutely not panned.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
  1. you had a shit ethics professor.
  2. bibi already has the west bank and it was done under biden's watch and harris supported it.
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"Every ethics course pans utilitarianism"

"I took ethics and they gave very serious consideration to utilitarianism"

"Am I out of touch? No, it's the ethics professors who are wrong"

Do you hear yourself?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I said you had a bad professor if they didnt teach the basics of how utilitarianism leads people to justifying genocides as a moral positive. In fact id go so far as informing you that the failure of your professor to give you that understanding means they didnt teach it seriously.

I never said they shouldn't teach it or that it wasnt a philosophy to teach seriously. I said its a bad philosophy. And many professors of philosophy do teach it as such and include covering the massive moral and structural failings of the concept.

Do you hear yourself? Because you're arguing things I never stated.