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[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah no, I'm gonna disagree. Being outside of the US at the time, most people did think that. And yes, obviously I'm talking about Jr since Sr didn't get re-elected. 9/11 was a full three years before the election of his second term. And most importantly before he started the war in Iraq. A war that was widely viewed as illegitimate outside the US.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was viewed as illegitimate inside the US too. And yeah, I remember, even as a 17yr old at the time, seeing the event happen live and lamenting to my mother that we were going to have another Bush term over it. Historically for America that's always been the case.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

It was viewed as illegitimate inside the US too.

You're recollection of events is clearly skewed. Something like 80% of the population approved of it at first. Meanwhile there were protests in the millions of people around the world against it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_in_the_United_States_on_the_invasion_of_Iraq

A Gallup poll made on behalf of CNN and USA Today concluded that 79% of Americans thought the Iraq War was justified, with or without conclusive evidence of illegal weapons.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's so fucking disgusting to be honest... I'm just a worthless dumb shit uneducated factory worker and at 17 I could see right through that garbage... We're a hateful group of people whether we care to admit it or not, there was a lot of anti-islamic/Muslim/Arab sentiment in the US at thst time. People were bloodthirsty.

I was going to join the military after highschool to get training since I'm poor and had no real direction to gamble on college, and then take it from there whether to stay in or not. Once talk started of invading Iraq I immediately said fuccccck that. I still blame Bush partially for my current situation. :/

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It was, but there were people bitching about it. It may be an unconventional way to show it but if you look at Eminem's album released in 2004 the second track was Mosh.

"Stomp, push, shove, mush, Fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home"

"Let the president answer a higher anarchy Strap him with an Ak-47, let him go, fight his own war Let him impress daddy that way No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our own soil No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain't loyal If we don't serve our own country, we're patronizing a hero Look in his eyes its all lies The stars and stripes, they've been swiped, washed out and wiped And replaced with his own face, Mosh now or die If I get sniped tonight you know why, Cause I told you to fight."

To me that's pretty obvious mainstream music pushing us to turn back against exactly what this false patriotism that exists today in MAGA is.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You should read your own link, because it also mentions that by the end of his term, most disapproved. By 2006 it was viewed as illegitimate by most. My recollection of events is fine, thanks.

America will generally approve of measures when they are led to believe it affects their security and safety. It's the years afterwards that determine if it continues to hold support.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You should read your own link, because it also mentions that by the end of his term, most disapproved

I clearly stated "at first". Mind you by the end of his term a majority still thought it was the right thing to do.