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Lefty Memes

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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


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[โ€“] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you ... read the text of the meme ?

But this specific meme is not a critique of all zionists, only liberal zionists

not every liberal is a zionist, but most are. Especially where I am from (not US).

-trying to talk shit against liberal zionist of their own country

-tag the wrong group and made no mention of zionist

-blame the reader for misunderstood

Ok sure fine you win i give up.

[โ€“] Y5QcY2Cu9@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Those citations are misleadingly assembled. I blamed you in the first part of my comment for somehow interpreting yourself as a target of the meme, even though if you are on this community you probably aren't a Liberal. I was annoyed by that, because that part is VERY clear in the meme. Trusting only the ICC blindly is not even an option on the buttons only the general trusting all institutions. The latter does absolutely not make any sense as criticism of leftys. I could see the former being used as bad faith critisism of leftys, but it would not work well, because leftys would not stop calling a genocide a genocide if the ICC said so ("institutions are not coming to save use, they have been corrupted" would be the lefty response, sort of a "To the friends of the US anything; to the enemies, the law" situation). Again this is not a part of the meme, so I am really not sure how a lefty could interpret the meme as an attack on himself. Either you were just tired or smth. in which case I was a bit too harsh or you are just self centered and can't stop interpreting memes that aren't about you to be about you, in which case I do not retract the condescension.

And that is where the scope of the first quote ends, the second part of the comment is a general explaination of the meme. And I do not blame anybody if they didn't understand what the meme was saying without the explaination, because it comments on a pattern of behaviour of many liberals recently (where I live AND the US), that I and seemingly many others have seen. So it is kind of a (very big ingroup) inside joke. Its a meme, it's referential, not a political essay, yes it oversimplifies things, yes that makes it easy to misunderstand, which is why I was happy to explain it.