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[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think you missed the point. Many games have toxic communities that attack women and tell them they're no good enough, along with much more unsavoury shit. Playing into that, you can get a very aggressive response and "feel something". It's less about trolling men and more the attacks many women get from elitist male gamers.

Do you think women aren't allowed to talk about sexist gaming communities?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So, the equal rights movements aren't about bringing certain people up to the level of everyone else, but instead bringing all others down to the oppressed's level?

I just want to make sure I am on the same page as everyone else moving forward.

[–] bluespin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Joking about men over-explaining a difficult game is not oppressing them

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So all the comedians that tell sexist jokes about women are a-ok in your book? Good to know.

[–] bluespin@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not what I said but nice try. Groups that are systemically oppressed joking about those that aren't is in no way equal to the reverse

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But broad generalizations towards an entire class are ok?

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why do you feel this offends you?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because generalization is bad. Classifying an entire group by a select subset is bad.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's not what is happening in here unless you have been playing ER and some woman came along and told you it could be easier and you replied with something like "yeah, fair point".

Did that happen?

I'm sorry, what? I think you are really digging for shit now.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is about bringing people to the same level. In this case, when women can go into gaming circles and not get snide, sarcastic comments about their perceived lack of skill, or overtly sexualized unsolicited comments, then we are there. We are not yet.

The fact you're getting triggered by women not being happy about this is a little odd.

Surely you'd want young women relatives of yours to not have a shitty environment like this?

Right, and what the commenters are saying, along with yourself, is that it is ok to degrade others as long as it's "their turn." The patriarchy has been in power for too long, we better hate all men just to be safe. Wouldn't want to miss any of the bad ones, so we'll blame all of them for our problems.

That's generalization. That's the enemy. If you want to hate against exclusivity in gaming, you can't generalize by saying something like the op screenshot. Instead, you would replace "men" with "soulsbourne gatekeepers." If that doesn't have the same weight as what the screenshot originally said, then you should look at what was changed and why it made you feel a certain way. Bias is a bitch, and it goes hand in hand with generalization. When you generalize, as the screenshot did, it's bringing a shotgun to an archery range. Sure, you'll hit the target, but you aren't doing it right.