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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not opposed to many of these bills but NONE of them improve the general well being of the american worker or their families.

You have a very specific definition of any legislative success. You have a very defined view (regardless if I agree with it or not).

Can you tell me when the last time any level of legislation was passed by any party that would meet your version of success? The only thing I can think of that would meet your very high bar is FDR with the New Deal and other efforts FDR did with the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority). Do you have something more recent that 1939?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You have a very specific definition of any legislative success.

Not particularly, as I said I believe some of those bills were decent successes, but they wont win votes from working americans. When it comes to winning votes and enacting change you need to accomplish demonstrable improvements to our lives. And yes that list will continuously change as more and more things are improved. That's a good thing.

Do you have something more recent that 1939?

smile do you? do you see the problem with the fact you need to go back that far to find anything that helps American's that you think I'll accept. The list I mentioned above isn't some unattainable goal. many countries already have accomplished these things for their people.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Do you have something more recent that 1939?
smile do you? do you see the problem with the fact you need to go back that far to find anything that helps American’s that you think I’ll accept.

I don't need to. I see lots of things, including the ACA, that helped working Americans. However, you say that doesn't by your measure. So I'm asking you to give an example of your measure to better understand your point of view. Thats how we learn about each other's views when they aren't apparent.

The list I mentioned above isn’t some unattainable goal.

So it sounds like you're saying nothing has been passed in the USA in the last 85 years since FDR's New Deal that qualifies for your measure of "helping working Americans".

many countries already have accomplished these things for their people.

Okay, thank you. That informs me of your position. I appreciate the time you've taken to share your views.