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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I disagree. People who live their entire lives being relentless bombarded by consumerist propaganda and pro-capitalist disinformation are not truly free to vote against it, nor were they given the chance. Al Gore cared more about the environment than Bush, but he was still a capitalist that supported car dependency and the military industrial complex.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So you're absolving "Generation Me" of ever having to think for themselves? The same generation that could have educated themselves for less than the price of new car, and simply chose not to because a high school diploma was enough?

Millennials were just as heavily, if not more propagandized, and yet, as a cohort, we have skewed far from Baby Boomers (ie Millenials are killing x), while retaining the ability to be critical of the systems we have inherited. We are also far more educated and far more in debt. All as a result of Boomers subsidizing their own welfare on the backs of their children and grandchildren.

Baby Boomers collectively failed upward, soaked up benefit after benefit while telling themselves that they deserved their station in life, and then pulled up every ladder behind them.

So, hard disagree.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Which is why replacing First-past-the-post voting is so important. We need to have more then two options.

Democrats believe in democracy right? What's the hold up blue states?

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Given that Gore actually won the election it's arguable that his concessions towards climate change, that it was real for a start, was the reason the election was close enough for him to lose the election. Voters loved the comforting lie over the hard truth then and they still do.

Especially given the yahoo Trump wants to appoint that doesn't believe in climate change even in 2024 is pretty damning of our ability to do anything about it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Jimmy Carter told Boomers to put on a sweater and they kicked him out of office.