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[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Boomers have categorically chosen apathy in favor of their own self interests since 1970. By the late 90s, they were a wrecking ball.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I disagree. People who live their entire lives being relentless bombarded by consumerist propaganda and pro-capitalist disinformation are not truly free to vote against it, nor were they given the chance. Al Gore cared more about the environment than Bush, but he was still a capitalist that supported car dependency and the military industrial complex.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So you're absolving "Generation Me" of ever having to think for themselves? The same generation that could have educated themselves for less than the price of new car, and simply chose not to because a high school diploma was enough?

Millennials were just as heavily, if not more propagandized, and yet, as a cohort, we have skewed far from Baby Boomers (ie Millenials are killing x), while retaining the ability to be critical of the systems we have inherited. We are also far more educated and far more in debt. All as a result of Boomers subsidizing their own welfare on the backs of their children and grandchildren.

Baby Boomers collectively failed upward, soaked up benefit after benefit while telling themselves that they deserved their station in life, and then pulled up every ladder behind them.

So, hard disagree.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Which is why replacing First-past-the-post voting is so important. We need to have more then two options.

Democrats believe in democracy right? What's the hold up blue states?

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Given that Gore actually won the election it's arguable that his concessions towards climate change, that it was real for a start, was the reason the election was close enough for him to lose the election. Voters loved the comforting lie over the hard truth then and they still do.

Especially given the yahoo Trump wants to appoint that doesn't believe in climate change even in 2024 is pretty damning of our ability to do anything about it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Jimmy Carter told Boomers to put on a sweater and they kicked him out of office.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most probably simply didn't know. A lot has to do with policies made by politicians that did know. Don't pretend to be better, you would have done the same back then with the information you had. Remember, no internet.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

lol, ok.

Despite your unfounded assumption, I'm old enough to know what it was like living pre-internet. Information was there, for those who chose to seek it out. Boomers, on the other hand, are the living definition of Dunning-Kruger. So no, they don't get a pass. They chose to remain ignorant and uneducated, and when they gained any advantage, they made sure that those who came afterward would NOT. That's not just a lack of awareness, it's mean-spirited and selfish. Which fits "Generation Me," to a T.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Well, no.

I am from the generation after the boomers but I grew up right before the Internet exploded onto the world and i can tell you that you would never see that sort of information unless you were looking for it. I know people love to shit on boomers, hence boomers being an insult word these days, but many simply couldn't know better.

Hell, I didn't know and believe me, I was (and still am) the kind of person that loves to read new things STEM. I had subscriptions on scientific magazines and I do remember reading articles about it being anything, scientists already knew about car tired being a problem, but it didn't go beyond some reports. The general population didn't know and pretending that they could have and should have known is simply disingenuous.

If you were alive at that time then you too know that it wasn't that easy.