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[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The side that lost in 2020 is the side that likes to resort to violence to solve what they see as the problems in society.

The side that lost in 2024 believes the things they say about civil behavior, adherence to the rule of law, and fucking democracy.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And just like last time, the second group willingly hands over power to the first.

The "paradox" of tolerance gets us every time.

Fascism deserves no quarter in civilized society, and as soon as we even pretend that it's a legitimate ideology, we give it power.

We need to learn from 1930s Germany. You don't just give your country to fascists.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Democracy only works if all (or at least the vast majority of) parties agree that the democratic system itself is more important than any one democratic outcome. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case . The right will go into full on election denial mode when they lose, and apparently most American voters are fine with that. Peaceful transfer of power, what that means and why it's important, well, that doesn't affect the price of milk and eggs so voters are apathetic to it. Democracy grants voters the power to kill democracy. Time will tell whether that's what they did (knowingly or not) in 2024.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Democracy grants voters the power to kill democracy.

Yeah, it's almost like a cycle... And it ends in some form of fascism or feudalism every time. And each time, the perpetrators are taking lessons from the previous cycles and tweaking things; Sabotage public education here, erode the separation of religion and government there, fire-hose of disinformation here, using the internet as a weapon and means of oppression there, etc.

This time they might've gotten it just right. I can only hope that I'm wrong.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Sure. Too bad that's all going to end.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 weeks ago

adherence to the rule of law

Both brands of usaian fash fervently support the violent control of people and things.