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[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

smug-explain actually, light speed c is only achieved in a vacuum...

No I had the same thought lol I was like what kind of shitty budget radar waves DON'T operate at light speed?

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Light speed is light speed, and c is c. They coincide in a vacuum. Light always travels at light speed.

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

Thesis: waves

Antithesis: particles

Synthesis: some nerd stuff I dunno

[–] Feline@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Light speed is light speed, and c is c. They coincide in a vacuum. Light always travels at light speed.

It's a little more complicated than that. Like, yes light is always traveling at c. But as it moves through a medium, it interacts with that medium. It gets refracted, absorbed, re-emitted, diffracted, etc: All things that add time to the photons' travels, lowering its observed velocity.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That is essentially what I was saying. The observed effect of light (the group velocity of light) travels at the speed of light. That is essentially to say, for everyday purposes like transmission of signals, the speed of light is the (observed) speed of light. In a vacuum, this is c, but in other media, the speed of light is slower than c, so c might be better referred to as the speed of causality.

Edit: I will mention that some peg c to the speed of light in any medium, and refer to the speed of light in a vacuum as c₀. This usage is endorsed in official SI literature.

[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ya I was just being a goof lol. Interesting about c vs c~0~ tho, never seen that usage before

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what kind of shitty budget radar waves DON'T operate at light speed?

shooting rubber balls in random directions and seeing if they bounce off something

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

The US military uses this system, but this is just so they can get away with throwing rubber balls at high speeds without it being an act of war