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West Francia? When it’s being ruled by Charles the Bald? There is no BDE, nothing remotely sigma, about a ruler whose honorific is “the bald.” I mean, he’s got a cousin named Nithard, deeply unserious leader.
Lothar, cool name, but c’mon, getting ousted from power in 834 by Louis and driven out to his rump state in Italy, that does not say winner. I mean, Lotharinga got absorbed into East Francia a century later, weeeeeeak.
So we’re going with Louis the German and East Francia. They’re winners, they had staying power into the tenth century, and survived the transfer from Carolingians to the Ottonians.
Medieval ruler nicknames were something else, later we just have tons of either nothing or bootlicking shit like "The great" for a ruler of Kuwait or 1/10 of Georgia or aparently every Thai king ever, but in medieval they often were more descriptive or straight up ironic. For example Charles the Bald wasn't even bald, he got this nickname because when his brothers recieved their own kingdoms he didn't, and only after many years and unsuccessful attempts he finally got his own crown.
Some Polish rulers nicknames include:
There was actually a huge rivalry between franks and saxons that would have almost destroyed East Frankia it was only when Conrad Conradiner I persuaded his brother to forsake the crown and let the stem duchies elect the saxon Henry the Fowler as rex teutonicorum.