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.world is ran by liberals and zionists not tankies.
Proof that they’re Zionists? Because they have been critical of Israel.
Here is one example:
Israel doesn't spread propaganda online but "corrects lies": https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/4009343
If you look at that mods post history and check the lowest rated comments there is much more.
Lying about ceasefire pre oct7: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/12166651
Blaming Hamas instead of Israel: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/6310176
This might be the worst one so far: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/14127174
I'm glad Lemmy never has to worry about conservatives tearing the place apart.
We'll do it all by ourselves!
Nobody hates leftists as much as leftists
Hence why they deserve to lose to the right, that's what you get for not learning
Oh & the current left is a shadow of it's former selves (When you let Grifters like Hasan speak for you, you hit rock bottom)
Oh great arbiter of the left, do let us know the alternate path.
well, you can go his path. looks like standard Libertarian, with some Mens Rights flavoring tossed in.
Don't let Hasan speak for you for starters
He does a good job, every person and spokesperson has their individualities, overall he is hugely net positive to the left - I think if you are saying 'speak up also' then you are valid, but if you are saying 'cut down your allies' for minor differences then you are naive or an op.
No he isn't & also he's good friends with a Zionist Eristocracy that attacks leftist & he's a grifter (watch his older videos) He has been making videos for years & what progress has he made with his limpwristed content ?
Try MidwesternMarx & Second thought & Hakim
Thank you for the suggestions. Hasan has made huge progress for the left, he's not perfect but he's so far from a Zionist, he's been the main target of the ADL for many months now, targeting him and his consistent anti-zionist attitude has been so important to the Zionist because they recognise how powerful having such a large voice speaking against them is. There's a reason they've tried so heavily to deplatform him.
You may not like him and he may not be perfect, but in terms of real influence he is clearly a powerful ally.
Funnily enough I was exposed to Second Thought and Hakim through Hasan, I think he has been a return guest on there. I will check out MidwesternMarx. I've had people try to discredit Hasan by saying he is associated with Second Thought, so you can understand why I'm not likely to immediately succumb to divide and conquer tactics.
What the fuck are you talking about? .world isn't tankie. Do you just use that word for people you don't like?
World isn't tankie. They just have shitty mods like the rest of the Internet.
Ml is tankie, lemmygrad is tankie, solarpunk is tankie, hexbear is tankie, but not world.
This is the first time I'm hearing about Solarpunk being outright tankie, rather than just leftist. Can you point to something that shows this so I can learn more?
I browse solarpunk often.
I wouldn't call them tankies. At all. Maybe a couple here or there might be, but if there are then they aren't vocal.
Definitely leftist.
Thank you for the insight from someone who sees the situation from closer inspection - also, that is well said imho:-).
We did it guys.
When everybody's a tankie, no one will be.
They believe that communism is the only way to solve environmental issues, which is not a great solution to anything.
What makes me think that they're tankie though is the near constant Chinese propaganda, usually about EVs.
If they aren't Tankies, then they're incredibly suspicious
Being communist does not make you a tankie. Being an authoritarian “communist” does.
This guy is a right wing troll. They regularly post on the conservative community on my instance and pick fights with people. Anyone that is not right wing is probably a tankie for this guy.
World isn't tankie and they're left wing.
Sanders isn't a tankie.
Not a troll, or even properly right wing, just right of most of Lemmy, which is a low bar.
Whatever you say troll.
Communism is inherently authoritarian. There's no way around it.
Upvoting for helpful discussion. I think the word you could be looking for is leftist, though I'm no expert.
What I do know is that tankies, highly ironically, only pretend to be leftists, while actually denying reality itself. Some Trumpists are this way on the Alt Right as well.
One short definition of a tankie is that they deny what happened in the Tiananmen Square massacre, specifically they don't believe that anyone died (or variations thereof), despite literally all evidence including videos and statements of people who were literally fucking there first-hand. Again there are counterparts on the right as well e.g. the holocaust deniers, and the similarities are striking.
A defining characteristic of a tankie instance, for me, is not the source of their political viewpoints and rather the hostility and toxicity that they spew forth onto others with seemingly no regard for things like "consent". It's a zealous mindset that ceases to question one's own beliefs and rather feels entirely justified in unleashing whatever vitriol they choose onto others. So I guess I need a better word then than "tankie" for that:-).
So leftist != tankie, bc ironically tankie != leftist.
Relevant post
"Tankie" isn't a synonym for "leftist;" it's about authoritarianism specifically. Solarpunk is the opposite of "tankie!"
Communism is authoritarianism by definition.
What happens if a worker decides he doesn't want to work?
Every person has their needs met, even if they don't want to work. Capitalism is artificially creating scarcity to keep profits up. We can create a world where everyone has their needs met by the few that want to provide those needs. That world does not require a state.
Where can we observe that working in practice?
Nowhere, because communism hasn't been realized yet.
China.
Seems reasonable, considering the general tankie view is that everything to their right is Nazi.
You're a right wing nut, you and Tankies are 2 sides of the same coin. And your opinion is about as valid as theirs.
Lol people are down voting you for being right, my user tag for them matches your description
Their name is "kaboom" and they post right wing trash, did you all forget exploding-heads was a thing?
Hit me again with some horseshoe theory.