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[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

it's a beautiful flash in the pan of consciousness that will fade, much like burning down the police station. Nothing will come of it, Americans are not organized and will kick and scream against any type of communist formation or party structure so it goes nowhere

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m not sure of that, there’s real talk in even .world of legitimate organizing, like a general strike. Most are afraid of everyone not being able to come together, but it’s been mentioned, which is promising imo.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao general strikes out of nowhere is radlib wishcasting 101 and gets mentions a million times and has never occurred in history

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, but for an instance that blocks Hexbear and has a lot of users with .ml hate, it’s nice seeing them thinking about that. I’m hoping those radlibs change instances so they can see Hexbear.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

yeah a few will be radicalized, and that is good, but if the extent of their radicalization is cheering at propaganda of the deed when it occurs it doesn't mean much

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you have posts you can share about this?

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

I can’t find the post it was in, but I found this one with a quick look.

I know this isn’t real solidarity and could surely be radlib roleplay, but the fact that some of them are having these feelings gives me hope (especially since I’ve been there).

I’ll keep looking.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

I found the post I was talking about - it’s from an asklemmy post on .world asking about the ethics of the shooters actions:

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans went ACAB for half a year and now even police reform isnt on the minds of most of them.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

the culture war and media beat Americans into submission to the point that only like 20% were supporting the protests by the end, whereas 70% supported burning down the precinct. Democrats and corporations got their grubby hands on it and started coopting everything, and the rightwing media went into overdrive with racist propaganda and pro-cop nonsense.

Americans are fickle and stupid and easily swayed. I take little hope in this flash in the pan because they've never shown any serious longevity or adherence to an actual coordinated project, they just wash around in the tide.