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Hello comrades. In the interest of upholding our code of conduct - specifically, rule 1 (providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all) - we felt it appropriate to make a statement regarding the lionization of Luigi Mangione, the alleged United Healthcare CEO shooter, also known as "The Adjuster."

In the day or so since the alleged shooter's identity became known to the public, the whole world has had the chance to dig though his personal social media accounts and attempt to decipher his political ideology and motives. What we have learned may shock you. He is not one of us. He is a "typical" American with largely incoherent, and in many cases reactionary politics. For the most part, what is remarkable about the man himself is that he chose to take out his anger on a genuine enemy of the proletariat, instead of an elementary school.

This is a situation where the art must be separated from the artist. We do not condemn the attack, but as a role model, Luigi Mangione falls short. We do not expect perfection from revolutionary figures either, but we expect a modicum of revolutionary discipline. We expect them not simply to identify an unpopular element of society hitler-detector , but to clearly illuminate the causes of oppression and the means by which they are overcome. When we canonize revolutionary figures, we are holding them up as an example to be followed.

This is where things come back to rule 1. Mangione has a long social media history bearing a spectrum of reactionary viewpoints, and interacting positively with many powerful reactionary figures. While some commenters have referred to this as "nothing malicious," by lionizing this man we effectively deem this behavior acceptable, or at the very least, safe to ignore. This is the type of tailism which opens the door to making a space unsafe for marginalized people.

We're going to be more strict on moderating posts which do little more than lionize the shooter. There is plenty to be said about the unfolding events, the remarkably positive public reaction, how public reactions to "propaganda of the deed" may have changed since the historical epoch of its conception (and how the strategic hazards might not have), and many other aspects of the news without canonizing this man specifically. We can still dance on the graves of our enemies and celebrate their rediscovered fear and vulnerability without the vulgar revisionism needed to pretend this man is some sort of example of Marxist or Anarchist practice.

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[–] glans@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

yo i am having deja vu about this comment. why do i keep seeing it over and over again.

act like he’s the second coming of Lenin if it will help

wat. nobody likes lenin except communists.

did u know trans ppl are in public

[–] iie@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I've said variants of the same thing multiple times in this thread, because I keep seeing the same argument that this mod post is wrong "because we need to capitalize on the moment." You've responded to a few of them now, and I just responded to one of your responses here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5730722. I'll paste that response below:

A lot of hexbears are saying, "we shouldn't condemn this guy right now, in this moment of unprecedented class consciousness, that's not how we reach people." I'm saying, "yes, I agree, don't condemn this guy in public. Say whatever works in the conversation you're in. Most members of the public aren't even aware of his reactionary beliefs. But on hexbear, a communist safe space website full of trans people, where we're all aware of his post history, and where we're all communists already so there's no recruitment to be done, the situation is different."

as for this:

did u know trans ppl are in public

Most members of the public are not aware of this guy's reactionary post history, so I think joining in and praising him will not come across as transphobia. If you encounter a situation where that's not the case, then yeah, break out the nuance, don't knowingly say anything that's going to come across as transphobic to the person you're talking to. The only real reason to talk about Luigi in the first place is to mention his stated reasons for the assassination and his experiences with American healthcare.