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They all made competitors and then kicked tiktok out of the market. They knew it would be used for counter propaganda so they had to make their own slop for deprogramming after they booted tiktok. I am going to miss my communist shortform slop

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Nah, the reason is just frothingfash ”Chyna bad and stealing our data! Only Amurican companies are allowed to do that!”, everything else is a bonus.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, that’s the fake reason. They don’t give a shit about data. The real reason is they can’t control the algorithm to make sure Americans stay the brainwashed bootlickers most of them are.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

very true and also because the american competitors want the secret tiktok sauce (aka the algorithm) to duplicate their success in this country and successfully lobbied my government into either spilling the beans or go out of business.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Funny thing is that some of the alternatives that I’ve seen proposed like Clapper are also Chinese apps lol

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

i struggle to understand why people keep saying to switch to lemon8 since that's also a tiktok thing and will be banned as well.

[–] SweetLava@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I for one actually think this notion of banning TikTok has some interesting consequences. JD Vance is supposedly anti-big tech and he wants to promote smaller companies for 'free market competition'. This is also at a point in time where the US is pushing to regulate Google, with both the present Biden admin and the future Trump admin on board.

It's true that this is to service the middle-class, bolster American nationalism, and strengthen American domestic production/industry, as well as promote the idea of Big Capital against Small Capital (Big Capital is "woke" and "DEI", Small Capital is freedom). It is also true that the US, especially since the Biden admin, wants to offer some serious restructuring of the global and domestic economy.

I would not dismiss their arguments against China so sloppily if I were you. Public image is all rhetoric, it gets people riled up and excited. You shouldn't mistake that for reality. There is something much bigger going on underneath the surface that I don't think any left-wing groups/orgs in the US are capable of preparing for, even in the best case scenario...

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

JD Vance is the stooge of Peter Thiel, a tech giant who's the founder of Paypal and Palantir. He's lying about being anti-big tech, if anything he just wants big tech to be ideologically fascist, like Musk's Twitter.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago

They’re all lying. The American alphabet agencies can’t control tik tok which is why they want it banned. Can’t allow Americans to think freely or critically, must maintain manufactured consent.

[–] SweetLava@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

That's true, but it doesn't make the method any less effective. Did anyone in the middle class care that the Nazis failed to abolish capitalism and for the most part only went after small Jewish capital? Did Americans care when Japanese, Chinese, and black small businesses were torched or had their owners attacked?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is something much bigger going on underneath the surface that I don’t think any left-wing groups/orgs in the US are capable of preparing for, even in the best case scenario…

do you have any more detail on this part?

[–] SweetLava@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

I don't believe Trump's policy will be unpopular among Americans, that's the gist of it. It's all political and ideological with these types, so they're free to do whatever with the economy. Anyone thinking this Trump administration sounds contradictory or dumb or ineffective or goes against popular demand or will crash the economy, etc., are not thinking straight.

And besides, the type of people who would ever disagree with this sort of policy - those people are not 'true Americans'. They never had a voice in America and they never will, their opinions can be safely discarded whenever we talk about people like Trump or Reagan.

The real reason is that TikTok is profitable and takes marketshare away from Facebook and Google in the short-form market