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I believe that knowledge should be free, you should have access to knowledge even if you don't have the money to afford buying it. This uses IPFS.

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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm curious, could anyone more knowledgeable about IPFS give an impression of the state of the protocol? It seems like a really interesting technology, but it also leans heavily into web3 and crypto bullshit. It's that reflective of the network, or just bad marketing?

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It seems like most big projects have dropped it. I remember reading one of the big fall backs was it has one central node hosting via cloudflare then they dropped it or something. Only half remembering. It sounds so cool! Sad it doesn’t work

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can confirm. Meddled with it a little bit a while ago trying to productively use it to host Lutris installer files. It's an absolute mess; slow, unreliable, without proper documentation and a really bad default node application.

Also it managed to get our server temporarily banned by the hosting provider since the "sane default settings" includes the node doing a whole sweep of your local subnet on all NICs respectively, knocking at multiple ports of every device it can find. Because the expected environment of a node apparently is your home network… a default setting that caused problems for many people for many years by now.

A project like in this post might benefit from looking at more modern/mature reimplementations of IPFS' concept, like Veilid (which would also offer additional features as well).

[–] TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just looked up Veilid seems to similar to I2P, but it is still in development and can't be used for now. Also I agree that IPFS is horrible and not just the setup, the developer themselves are against piracy. What is the point of a decentralised network that picks and chooses what it hosts? BitTorrent, Tor, Freenet, and I2P never did this as far as I know.

DCMA Denylist https://github.com/ipfs-inactive/faq/issues/36#issuecomment-140567411

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you're all making look a bit worse than it is. I downloaded a few PDFs via IPFS and it worked for me. And I was happy it provided me with what I needed at that time. I can't comment on reliability or other nuances. It also was slow in my case, but I took that as the usual trade-off. Usually, you either get speed or anonymity, not both. And there are valid use-cases for denylists. For example viruses, malware, CSAM and spam. I'd rather not have my node spread those. It's complicated. And I also talk in public like that. I think what matters is what you do and implement, not if you say you comply with regulation and the DMCA...

Thanks for the links, I'll have a look.

[–] TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What are talking about, IPFS isn't anonymity network, it is similar to torrenting everyone can see your ip.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I thought it had that factored in. But yeah, if it's bittorrent, just as a CDN, this isn't anonymous. I'll look it up.

When I first heard of IPFS, I also thought it was anoymous, but I researched and it just like bittorrent everyone can see your IP. You have to use VPN.

https://discuss.ipfs.tech/t/how-to-make-ipfs-node-ip-address-anonymous/12359/3

If you want an anonymous P2P try freenet or I2P. There is also a new anonymous network currently being developed called Vailid which seems promising.

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

So use an anonymyzing network overlay if you want anonymity.

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IPFS is designed for decentralized pinning and decentralized use. You're supposed to run a local node or use browsers with built-in IPFS to access content. If you're using it wrong it will suck.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes of course you need to run the program but it all runs through a central node which barely works

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Again, if you're usung central anything with IPFS you're using it wrong and you are getting the worst of two worlds.

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

You can use IPFS fine without any crypto bullshit.