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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

pretty much anyone who's ESL would not hear it through osmosis

[–] BigLenin@hexbear.net 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if that's necessarily true. Greek history and mythology is taught throughout the world.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BigLenin@hexbear.net 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've meet Koreans who know who Odysseus is.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

and I've met Chinese and Indians who don't

I've also met Chinese people who can speak Tamil

[–] BigLenin@hexbear.net 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I mean I know it's not literally taught EVERYWHERE, just that it some exposure in some non-western cultures.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm trying to think of how many whites know what the I Ching or the Upanishads are, and it's not many, and it's probably about that number, maybe a bit higher

[–] BigLenin@hexbear.net 1 points 12 hours ago

I mean there are a lot of western Dynasty Warriors fans.

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If you said "non-westerners" to mean countries which don't think of themselves as rooted is Greek and then Roman cultural history, then yeah I suppose. But any European country I would expect people to have learned it through osmosis.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

im curious to know if you think of a country like Brazil as western. Its interesting to see how the perception of "western"-ess varies.

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 1 points 10 hours ago

I was creating a definition for this case, really. 'Western" generally is a relation to non-western, defining it malleably to suit imperialist needs. Sometimes Brazil is western (not Muslim, for example, in the war on the middle eastern Arab countries), but others it's not.

In this case, I was saying that functionally, the important aspect for whether someone would absord stuff about the Odyssey has more to do with whether their country sees itself as a descendent of Greek and Roman culture. The west seems to think it's the true followers (enlightenment and such) and so focusses more on it. Why would Chinese people care when the base of their culture was already also in existence with writing that also exists to read now?