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[–] PotentiallyAnApricot@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The united states needs to outlaw religious organizations using basic needs to coerce people in need. It’s just fundamentally violating and gross on a human level. We need a federal law separating the help that churches give to people, from their religious activities. We need a real safety net, too, but this is a specific abuse of power that needs to be addressed for what it is.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Religious people try to do good

... And you took that personally.

[–] towerful@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Utah’s safety net for the poor is so intertwined with the LDS Church that individual bishops often decide who receives assistance. Some deny help unless a person goes to services or gets baptized.

Soinds like coercion

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bellamy, desperate for help, had tried applying for cash assistance from the state of Utah. But she’d been denied for not being low-income enough

So she tried a different avenue that was not the state.

That different avenue might be coercive and have strict demands on who can receive money and for what, but it's not tax payer money.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Utah doesn’t do more for those in need in part because a contingent of its lawmakers, the overwhelming majority of whom are Latter-day Saints themselves, assume the church is handling the poverty issue; they also are loath to raise taxes to do the state’s share, a review of Utah’s legislative history demonstrates.

"I made it so you can't get help from them, only from me, and now I'm helping you, contingent on you doing what I tell you to. Aren't I so nice and kind?"

This was not religious people trying to do good, this was religious people abusing legislative power to force people into their sphere of influence.

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