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I escaped the Reddit regime a little while ago. I consider myself a marxist-leninist-MZT. Vegetarian and vegan for a few years. I've a lot of thoughts on how marxism and veganism are connected. Never wrote them down. I'd like to start smth like a club for marxist vegans to develop our own proletarian theory. Most vegan theory I found is either openly bourgeois (Francione is a literal TERF) or revisionist (anti-China, anarchist, libertarian). How about fixing this?

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[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yea slaughterhouses are definitely inhumane, but farms, hunting and livestock are normal here and we've been doing it since prehistory, so unless we can clone meat one day, that's just how we live.

I don't eat rabbits specifically but yeah they are one of the animals people keep as pets and unless they're breeding uncontrollably on farms, I'm against it.

Some white people are disgusted by eating bugs even though it's normal in many parts of the world(and they eat water bugs), I wouldn't have a problem with it, it's what these guys in survivalist shows in the wild do.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why would cloning meat be okay? That's not normal, so shouldn't people stick with what they've always done and slaughter animals?

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some people want to clone meat, idk if it's feasible but most are skeptic of it.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

I know, but it's not "normal" and you seem to think that matters? Personally I don't think "it's normal" actually means anything. That's just the inertia of history - a quirk of our material conditions. Normal isn't necessarily best.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We eat chapulines in Mexico. It is very normal in indigenous land.

Damn, now I understand why veganism is so divisive.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

They look delicious