So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!
Win-win!
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Ah yes, California's penal legion of ~~slaves~~ "indentured servants" that we uh... voted to keep around in the last election.
Man, CA politics are fucking bizarre. Sometimes the slam dunk no-brainer propositions fail and there never seems to be a really good reason why.
Indentured servants would be college graduates and the loans they bear.
Money, and liberals.
California is liberal. Not left. Every once in a while some leftist proposition comes up that threatens money, and money always wins.
When they say liberals are wolves in sheep's clothing, this is kinda what they're talking about. They care, they really care about their fellow man, as far as their comfortable standard of living allows.
😌✊✊ Liberals 😫✊💦✊💦
Liberals huh? So where are the leftists in all this? Destitute in the streets?
Fighting the fires.
Oh, so only leftists fight fires huh?
For $6.80/hr before taxes.
Yeah for sure all of those prisoners are leftists. Yeah youre starting to sound about as smart as a leftist keep going
Oh, you're serious. I thought we were doing one of those fun bits.
Yeah i get tired of hearing about liberals on here
Well that's only fair, because I'm pretty tired of dealing with their policies.
And those policies are?...
Lots, but currently pretty fucking infuriating to see cops get an increase of 160 million, while the fire department gets ~17 million cut. But I guess it balances out if they use those police to build an indentured class that they can pay next to nothing to fight the fires instead!
Yeah totally policies set forth by liberals. Totally not ancient federal and state laws
See part of why I have so much of a gripe with liberals is this sort of mentality here. California is one of the most solidly blue states in the country. Since you didn't defend it on the merits, it seems you agree the choice I described in my post was not great, correct? But instead of realizing that it may be possible that rich politicians from your team are not actually on your side, you just defer to nebulous 'ancient laws' that apparently make it impossible for helpful choices in, and lets be clear here, a city deciding it's own budget. Care to point to the federal and/or state laws that just hamstring the benevolent liberals of LA and force them to increase the police budget by 160 million dollars? Laws that apparently can't be challenged, or circumvented by the liberals in those positions, since they would certainly do so if they could, right??
Rich politicians are not liberal. They are neoliberal. There is a vast ocean between the two
Neoliberals huh? So where are the liberals in all this? Destitute in the streets?
Next to the leftists
Where are the leftists?
Bitching about liberals from their ivory towers appparently
So are the liberals bitching about neoliberals from ivory towers then?
Right. What im saying is leftists are the same until a policy measure fails then to people on here "its the fault of liberals" as if theyre not the same arm of the constituency. Its just devisive bullshit
So did they vote to keep slavery from their ivory towers, and blame it on neoliberals?
It looks like the entire state was ignorant or misled by deliberately confusing wording. Down ballot voters were more likely to check "no". Had they used the word slavery in the measure it would have more likely have passed like it did in a variety of other states that, wait for it, are liberal
Okay, so the neoliberals that are the actual problem chose poor wording so they could trick the liberals into voting to keep slavery?
Were the changes to the LA budget the product of "ancient federal and state laws" or neoliberals now?
Are all the politicians neoliberals, or just most with power in the state?
Those ancient and federal policy makers? Liberals, probably xD
Where were the leftists then?xD
Honestly, at the time they probably were the left. Depending on which definition of left vs right we are using, because of course there are multiple stances on what left vs right means :(
cries in recently educated
Kinda hard to say but youre probably right considering the 13th amendment passed in 1865 and it was between the mid 1800s and early 1900s the parties switched
Hitting a little close to home?
Hitting inaccurately
So yes
Its like having an idealistic sibling you for the most part agree with and defend that goes goes behind your back trying to sow discord to your other siblings for seemingly no other reason but to pump up their own ego.
It's like having a boisterous sibling who makes bold claims and pumps you up, but when it comes time to put their money where their mouth is, they slink away with their tail between their legs. Or even, at times, rally with the other side.
Sure, maybe we're idealistic. At least we follow through.
Follow through with what? Circlejerking on lemmy? All i see that doing is alienating potential allies. The same goes for lowborn conservatives. You are losing allies with your messaging.
Neoliberals are DINOs. They are part of the ruling class with the far right republicans. They are not the same as regular people with liberal views who's only power is to vote, volunteer and donate. In fact I would argue that leftists are typically liberal. Youre not winning hearts and minds with this crybaby shit