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Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Biden got 80 million and won on a much more progressive platform (that he ignored when in office). Harris ran a conservative campaign that depressed her base in favor of appealing to republicans. It was some sorkin brained shit that obviously stupid and many of us were yelling about it at the time. We were right but Dems will never listen because they love corporate money more than winning or having a livable planet.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

To be fair afaik Biden didn't ignore his progressive platform. He definitely said things he then didn't accomplish, but if I understand it right they were within the range of "all politicians lie" rather than having completely ignored his platform Obama-style.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Most pro-labour administration since FDR, but that still counted for nothing, apparently.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Because thats pretty debatable. Where was the Biden administration when the cops were breaking up the amazon strike? And Biden forced the rail union not to strike, right? And in the end years later gave them a fraction of what the strikers were going to demand, and called it victory. Typical centrist outcome.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

It counted for nothing because inflation was hurting the working class and Democrats are shit at messaging.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ran on being compassionate to migrants, deported more than Trump and had Title 42 longer. Said he’d get rid of private prisons, those migrants end up in private prisons.

Ran on cleaning up Trumps mess with Covid, just declared it over with while Americans died in droves. Didn’t even try to mitigate it. His press secretary had the gall to laugh when a reporter suggested sending free tests which they ended up doing because of public pressure.

Ran on cleaning up Washington after Trump. Appointed the most useless man in the word Merrick Garland who sat on his fucking hands until Trump rehabilitated his image. Speed was key and Biden might just be responsible for the end of American democracy because of his lack of spine.

Ran on the energy from the George Floyd protests. Solved the problem of policing of black people by funding the living shit out of cops. I assume he is trying to drown them in money.

Then he funded the shit out of genocide that his base fucking hated. Just from a pragmatic point of view he should have stopped for the elections sake, but he did it anyways because he doesn’t think Palestinians are people.

I was Biden’s biggest fan after the IRA passed. Finally we are doing something for the environment. But that is all going to be undone because the fuck refused to step down so we could have a primary.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

And yet he was still the most humane president since Carter. Really tells you something about the US, more than the president himself (e.g. Congress standing ovation for genocide bibi).