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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt that such a model would be viable in practice. Again, server owners must be able to delete content under certain circumstances. How would you deal with illegal content? How would you deal with communities that share CSAM for example, or are used by criminal or terrorist organizations, black market arms dealing etc? I doubt that mods of such communities will take care of it.

Also, I don't think that the issue of defederation is as big of a deal as you make it to be.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My instance is a pretty big one and is defederated from other major ones because of the admins on those other instances. That's tens of thousands of users I (and any other user on my instance) can't interact with because their admin said so.

They would need to filter the content being pushed to their server just like current admins have to do even if they elect not to host NSFW content. There's tools to automate the process. If it's a non issue with the way things work now then it's a non issue with what I'm proposing.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds you would still have admins, just with extra steps and extra work.

There's tools to automate the process.

Oh, yeah, because automated tools to recognize illegal content work so well. (/s. For real, there are reasons why computer science experts, privacy experts and civil rights experts are pretty much united against such tools. If you want to know more, look up the resistance against EU proposals for Clients Side Scanning and such.)

Your ideas would not work in reality without open up.platforms for all the things we do not want.

My instance is a pretty big one and is defederated from other major ones

Which ones? I looked through some major instances' lists of blocked instances and sh.itjust.works isn't on any.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

You would have sys admins but no admins that could do anything to users themselves. Which I had already made very clear.

The automated tools are what current admins use to clean up their servers because users keep uploading illegal content to Lemmy even with the current system. I already mentioned that.

Beehaw, Hexbear...

Here's a tool to check that: https://federation-checker.vercel.app/