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China is now a country where a high-school handyman has a master's degree in physics; a cleaner is qualified in environmental planning; a delivery driver studied philosophy, and a PhD graduate from the prestigious Tsinghua University ends up applying to work as an auxiliary police officer.

These are real cases in a struggling economy - and it is not hard to find more like them.

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[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

China's culture also glorifies cheating. So probably a huge percentage of them are not actually qualified with their printed phony credentials.

[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Don't know why the down votes. Yes you could argue the Chinese traditional cultures don't glorify cheating but then there's as much Chinese traditional culture in China today as there are the classical culture of the ancient Greeks in the US right now lol

In real life people praise taking unfair advantages to achieve what you want in popular cultures in today's China, where people praise it as a form of strength, sometimes even "wisdom", in a society where respect to established standards and moral principles is viewed as foolish. And you really can't blame them either considering such things as "established standards and moral principles" are the most popular ingredients of propaganda and political brainwashing, and a lot of Chinese people are actually not idiots who can't see that.

You only need to visit Chinese language social media now to see that everywhere.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Care to elaborate? I never heard of this one.

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

Could very well be unfounded but in gaming circles there’s mention of Chinese people being raised to have a “win no matter what” mindset which leads them to cheat in video games.

Which is also a reason you see a lot of people call for region locking China.

Obviously it’s different to higher education but there is precedence in different circles.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I don't know about culture glorifying it or it being a huge percentage of people, but it's a real problem. Just one example: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10132391/Riot-after-Chinese-teachers-try-to-stop-pupils-cheating.html

[–] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From what I heard from a teacher who was on exchange to China is that traditional Chinese education values the memorization and ability to rephrase or reproduce previous scholars' work, but neglects reflection and own ideas, especially if you are just a student. Western academic traditional to the contrast values the student's ability to evaluate, compare, and reflect on previous work. Hypothetically, a report that would give you a pass with distinction at a Chinese university would make a plagiarism checker cry at a Western university and vice versa.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

It’s just unfounded racism