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Theres something about the Roe v Wade decision that I dont think enough people to grasp; it was already hollowed out time after time after time, in many of the states where abortion had already been persecuted, it didnt have to go much further. Many of the states had already essentially made abortion fundamentally illegal, and the states that already had adequate abortion protections kept them. Roe V Wade was a small step, it unfortunately wasnt a big deal.
That kinda buttresses my point though, no? Abortion was functionally banned already in a lot of the anti abortion states such that it didn't really matter whether or not roe v Wade stood. In fact it being left basically intact would have been smart politics because it would have helped diffuse a leftwing backlash while still accomplishing the same goal basically.
...but that wasn't enough. They overturned it outright because the base and their ideology demanded it, the consequences be damned. I think we would do well to remember that when speculating about how far they're actually willing to go.
I think were both on different sides of the same dialectical reasoning, I wasnt refuting your point: I'm saying it wasnt a big ask ideologically because functionally, materially, it was already reality and I think what youre saying is that it was a big ask because while it was already reality it was still a shibboleth.
But I also think there wasnt really any consequences to be damned. We already know how far theyre willing to go, theyll do anything for material impact, shibboleths be damned.