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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Actually, the Gulf of Mexico appears called like that around 1500 AD, when the United States were not even an idea of a nation. So no, it never was called like that because it was named centuries before the US existed.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

In this vein, I'm ok with calling it Gulf of America, the (super)continent, so long as the denonym for people of the USA also changes, since it's a continent.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

Agreed. We should no longer be referred to as Americans, and instead let's call ourselves the Shitholes.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Alright folks, time to pick a demonym! Cast your votes on USAians or Absolute Unit[ed State]s.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

We can just be called usasians or Americans. Africa, Europe, and Australia, watch out we're gunning for ways to name ourselves after yall too.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

I vote for Usan, pronounced YOO-sn.

Just call the whole thing Washington to make things even more confusing.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Agreed, I've been trying to move away from the terms "America" and "American" when discussing specifically The United States or it's people.

Not doing so is often at insult to the majority of people living in the Americas.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe Gulf of (Central) America

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's weird how people seem to think that demonyms should match the name of the country exactly...

Should we also say "united kingdomer"?

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. We say English, for England, and Irish for Ireland, and Scottish for Scotland, and Welsh for Wales. French for France. German, Germany. Italian, Italy. Japanese, Japan. Canadian, Canada. Australian, Australia. Brazilian, Brazil. Mexican, Mexico.

I mean come on.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"British" isn't a thing?

How colonial of you to determine that you get to tell other people what they should be called.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

British does refer to the English blokes though. Don't call a proud Scotsman that you think him to be British.

Arguably the Welsh and Scots are British, the English are filthy fucking Saxons.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"British" isn't a thing?

Not really, no.

A Scott wouldn't because it would associate them with England, a Welshman wouldn't, because it would associate them with England.

And I wouldn't, because someone might think I'm Welsh or Scottish. 🤷

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Well I'm going to call you british because you're from the british isles. "

This is my point - you don't get to define how others refer to themselves.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That only makes sense if you also call every german person deutscher, every japanese person 日本人 and every Croatian person hrvat

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm calling Scots "British" from now on because they live in Britain.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Go on, I dare you 🤣

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

America is not "The United States" in the context of naming global features on a map. We have two continents call that, for example.

Sure, but the name Gulf of Mexico, actually named Golfo de México since it was a Spaniard who named it, doesn't come from the country of Mexico, but of the Mexica civilization (aztecs for many but called mexihkah in nahuatl), the name comes from the even older name "seno mexicano" (seno meaning gulf or bay).

If any, the other known name was Gulf of New Spain, but I suppose Turd would rather die than call it such name.