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U.S. President Donald Trump says Canadians would have “much better” health coverage if Canada became the 51st state.

He made the remarks during a briefing in North Carolina, where he toured areas struck by Hurricane Helene on Friday.

“I would love to see Canada be the 51st state,” he said. “The Canadian citizens, if that happened, would get a very big tax cut -- a tremendous tax cut -- because they are very highly taxed.”

“They’d have much better health coverage. I think the people of Canada would like it,” said the president.

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[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What is with the huge amount of idiots who would rather pay hundreds or thousands a month in insurance and healthcare costs just to save a couple hundred a year in taxes? Its actually unbelievably dumb.

[–] ControllerCat@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yank here. So, we don't have broad public healthcare because it keeps middle class people terrified of losing their white collar jobs. It also appeals to American racism, putting barriers up for people of color and the working poor to get equal treatment. Many Americans would happily screw themselves over to ensure someone else (they hate) has it worse.

We have hours long lines at private urgent care, and seeing a general practice doc takes 3 to 6 months of wait time (if you're lucky). Also, I'm queer. If The U.S. did have broad public healthcare, it would instantly be weaponized against all LGBTQ+ folks.

Tldl, in the States it's mostly about keeping the middle class terrified of losing their jobs, and ensuring there are working-poor people to sneer at.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah i get why the lobbyists want it. I dont get why the answer from so many citizens seems to be "i dont want my taxes to go up". Like bro youre paying ten times the amount now that you would in any tax increase.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Dude the tax meme for American voters drives me insane.

[–] ControllerCat@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

A lot lf Americans just don't think about it that way. There's a multitude of reasons based more on sentiment and group social pressure than the obvious math.

Many Americans have a great deal of personal optimism to the tune of "well I'm not sick right now". It's a gamble that everyone loses, but in the short term you keep more money. It speaks to the belief that personal heath is a moral virtue (or failing), therefore a moral person shouldn't have to pay for immoral people's "bad choices". And, if someone didn't save enough money to invest in their own health, that's also a moral failure.

There's also terror of appearing too feminine. Care, either receiving it, or giving it to others, is feminine coded for a lot of Americans. So, paying into (and participating in) a broad public healthcare system becomes a crisis of masculine self (and group) identity. sarcasm You wouldn't want people to think you're a sissy right? sarcasm

Er, sorry for the wall of text.

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