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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. An awful lot of conservatives are bending over backwards to explain why Trump was justified in breaking the law multiple times. They certainly do care, and some people have even died over it. Remember the guy who tried to go after the FBIfield office in Cincinnati, OH?

[–] Svengarlic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've heard some arguments saying that if Trump "knew" the election was rigged, he had a moral imperative to do whatever was necessary to maintain the union. The fact that the charges exist at all is proof of conspiracy, and the trial is just a parade. While I don't agree, it's hard to get thru to people that don't agree on the same objective reality.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out if you lie often enough and about something and just keep repeating it, people will start to believe it.

There's unfortunately, also some evidence to the contrary that he privately knew he lost and did all this crap anyway.

Nevermind the phone call where he asked the Georgia secretary of state to find him 11,780 votes. But, if that's not enough to convince people he's making shit up, nothing will convince them.

Unfortunately, I'm dumb at psychology, and I have no idea how you would deprogram these people.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For groups like this reprogramming usually starts with facing the wall.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does "facing the wall" mean?

[–] IdealShrew@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

firing squad presumably

[–] CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

It's like when the last thing a mosquito sees is it's ass when it hits your windshield.

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

The argument that someone saying they "knew" something, without being able to provide a shred of evidence to support the claim, is somehow direct proof of said claim is, flat out, retarded. They're not logicians.