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Coders or lemmy, what editors do you use? Is it worth learning a new one? (programming.dev)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by verstra@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev

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When I was in high school I found Sublime Text and learned "multiple cursors". Since then, I've transitioned to vscode, mainly because I need LSP (without too much configuration work) for my work.

I keep hearing about how modal editing is faster and I would like to switch to a more performant editor. I've been looking at helix, as the 4th generation of the vi line of editors. Is anyone using it? Is it any good for the main code editor?

The problem that I have is that learning new editing keybindings would probably take me a month of time, before I get to the same amount of productivity (if I ever get here at all). So I'm looking for advice of people who have already done that before.

My code editing does involve a lot of "ctrl-arrow" to move around words, "ctrl-shift-arrow" to select words, "home/end" to move to beginning/end of the line, "ctrl-d" for "new cursor at next occurrence", "shift-alt-down" for "new cursor in the line below", "ctrl-shift-f" for "format file" and a few more to move around using LSP-provided "declaration"/"usages".

I would have to unlearn all of that.

Also, I do use "ctrl-arrow" to edit this post. Have you changed keybindings in firefox too?

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[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've tried to learn Vim in the past but IMO it is not worth it at all. In a world without multiple cursors... sure, maybe. With multiple cursors? No way. I can can edit just as fast as I've seen any Vim user do it, and without having to remember a gazillion mnemonics and deal with the silly modal thing.

Multiple cursor editing even has some significant advantages over Vim style, e.g. it's interactive, so you can do your edit gradually and go back if you make a mistake. Rather than having to write a complex command and only finding out it if works at the end. (If you've used regex find & replace you'll understand that problem.)

I'll probably get downvoted for this since Vim is kind of a cult, and Vim users get a sense of superiority from it. Kind of like audiophiles - they don't appreciate it if you tell them their £10k valve amp doesn't actually sound any better than your £1k digital amp.

For editing on remote computers I use VSCode remote or Micro for quick tasks.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

vi WAS almost ubiquitously installed on any host you’d connect to, so it was worth learning.

The reason we like it is because it’s been iterated over to be useful for modifying the types of files you’d be editing. It has a significant plugin ecosphere and does its job well.

For editing on remote computers I use VSCode remote or Micro for quick tasks.

and vim is the 10k amp in your analogy … huh.