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When I worked in the U.S. I was well above $160k.
When you look at leaks you can see $500k or more for principal engineers. Look at valves lawsuit information. https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/13/24197477/valve-employs-few-hundred-people-payroll-redacted
Meta is paying $400k BASE for AI Reserch engineers with stock options on top which in my experience is an additional 300% - 600%. Vesting over 2 to 4 years. This is to H1B workers who traditionally are paid less.
Once you get to principal and staff level engineering positions compensation opens up a lot.
https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=meta+platforms+inc&job=&city=&year=all+years
ROI does not matter when companies are telling investors that they might be first to AGI. Investors go crazy over this. At least they will until the AI bubble pops.
I support people resisting if they want by setting up tar pits. But it’s a hobby and isn’t really doing much.
The sheer amount of resources going into this is beyond what people think.
That and a competent engineer can probably write something on the BEAM VM that can handle a crap ton of parallel connections. 6 figure maybe? Being slow walked means low CPU use which means more green threads.
In the Verge article, are you talking about the table the the "presumably" qualifier in the table column headers? If so, not only is it clear they don't know what, exactly, is a attributable to the costs, but also that they mention "gross pay", which is AKA "compensation." When a company refers to compensation, they include all benefits: 401k contributions, the value of health insurance, vacation time, social security, bonuses, and any other benefits. When I was running development organizations, a developer who cost me $180k was probably only taking $90k of that home. The rest of it went to benefits. The rule of thumb was for every dollar of salary negotiated, I had to budget 1.5-2x that amount. The numbers in "Presumably: Gross pay" column are very likely cost-to-company, not take-home pay.
I have some serious questions about the data from "h1bdata.info". It claims one software engineer has a salary of $25,304,885? They've got some pretty outlandish salaries in there; a program manager in NY making $2,400,000? I'm sceptical about the source of the data on that website. The vast number of the salaries for engineers, even in that table, are in the range of $100k - 180k, largely dependent on location, and a far cry from a take-home salary of 500,000€.
It’s government reporting data. If you find a better source I say go for it. But I used that data for salary negotiations in the past successfully.
I’m not talking about take home. I’m talking about total annual compensation including things like RSU payouts etc.
Even if we throw out the ones you doubt there are many 300k to 400k entries with the AI researcher title. If we add annualized RSU payouts we easily hit over €500k.
At this point t though you are free to doubt me.